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GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar--segue to CN steel auto box cars...
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Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
CN Lines Vol. 6/4 has a couple of photos of interest. One is of CV
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41099, built by Pressed Steel Car Company in March, 1929, and is also on the National Archives of Canada/CN Images of Canada website. You may have to copy and paste the link into your browser-- http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-389222185&id=55 It clearly shows the use of a "Dreadnaught" 3/3/3 end on this car. The article in CN Lines also has a builder's photo of GTW 34620, built by AC&F in 1920/21. It was a steel-frame car, built with "Murphy" 7/8 ends. An Accurail car might be a starting point for this car? But, while we're on the subject of auto box cars, any suggestions for modelling this one?? http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-135752854&id=55 Steve Lucas.
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Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Steve Lucas wrote:
But, while we're on the subject of auto box cars, any suggestions for Since the car was originally built with 10'0" IH and 4/5 square- cornered Dreadnaught ends, a Red Caboose auto car kit with square- cornered ends would be a good starting point (if you can find one). You would then have to jack up the roof by 6", which is exactly what was done on the prototype cars. Richard Hendrickson
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ed_mines
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389222185&id=55 Steve, can you explain how to search the National Archives of Canada web site for freight car photos like the one above on line? In other words how did you find this link? (it's a nice one too). Ed
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Ian Cranstone
On 1-Jan-09, at 11:37 AM, Steve Lucas wrote:
But, while we're on the subject of auto box cars, any suggestions forThere was an article by Brian Pate in Canadian Railway Modeller some years back on how he modelled one of these cars. CN raised the roof on these cars in late 1946 according to ORER entries. Ian Cranstone Osgoode, Ontario, Canada lamontc@nakina.net http://freightcars.nakina.net http://siberians.nakina.net
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Nice view of GT 40' flat 69638(?) with trolley car as a load on this site. http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=1022519810&id=49 - Claus
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From: "Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@yahoo.ca> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:37 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar--segue to CN steel auto box cars... CN Lines Vol. 6/4 has a couple of photos of interest. One is of CV
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William Keene <wakeene@...>
Claus,
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Not a trolley... but a street railway power unit often referred to as a steam dummy. Nice photo. Thanks for sharing. -- Bill Keene Irvine, CA
On Jan 1, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Claus Schlund (HGM) wrote:
Hi List Members,
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi William and list members,
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So then this is really a small steam engine disguised in a trolley-like carbody? I think I get it now. The wneels have counterweights and a place to mount a connecting rod, and I think I see a tiny steam cylinder for the main drive... also a smokestack! Thanks - Claus
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From: "William Keene" <wakeene@jps.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: GTW 11/2 door Single sheathed boxcar--segue to CN steel auto box cars... Claus,
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Dennis Storzek
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Claus Schlund \(HGM\)" <claus@...> wrote:
trolley-like carbody? I think I get it now. The wneels have counterweights and a place to mount a connecting rod, and I think Isee a tiny steam cylinder for the main drive... also a smokestack!Here is a bit more information. Wikipedia was surprisingly unhelpful, saying only: "Steam dummies had some popularity in the first decades of railroading in the U.S., from the 1830s but passed from favor after the Civil War. It was thought that the more familiar appearance of a coach presented by a steam dummy, as compared to a conventional engine, would be less likely to frighten horses when these trains had to operate in city streets. Later it was discovered that it was actually the noise and motion of the operating gear of a steam engine that frightened horses, rather than the unfamiliar outlines of a steam engine." Well, Duh! I also disagree with their dates; we had some dummy lines in the Chicago suburbs that lasted into the 1890's. Here is a more useful link, although these engines are smaller than the one on the flatcar: http://ca.geocities.com/hamiltontransithistory@rogers.com/Dummies.html Dennis
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