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Roundhouse/MDC metal cars
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Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
Back in the day MDC made a number of freight car kits using metal
castings. Except for the drop-bottom gondola I don't recall anyone ever identifying prototypes for any of the MDC metal cars. I searched the archives and came up with some information/suppositions about the later plastic model's prototypes. I am specifically interested in the old Roundhouse stock car with metal sides and the single-sheathed box car with metal truss and wood sides. Does anyone know if either have a prototype and if so, what? Gene Green |
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Gene Green wrote:
I am specifically interested in the old Roundhouse stock car with metal sides and the single-sheathed box car with metal truss and wood sides. Does anyone know if either have a prototype and if so, what?I think these two truss castings are the same. I always used to think it was the ARA box car, but haven't really checked details or dimensions. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Park Varieties <parkvarieties@...>
If I remember correctly, the stock car is based loosely on the Pennsy K7 stock car.
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Frank Brua ----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Green To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: [STMFC] Roundhouse/MDC metal cars Back in the day MDC made a number of freight car kits using metal castings. Except for the drop-bottom gondola I don't recall anyone ever identifying prototypes for any of the MDC metal cars. I searched the archives and came up with some information/suppositions about the later plastic model's prototypes. I am specifically interested in the old Roundhouse stock car with metal sides and the single-sheathed box car with metal truss and wood sides. Does anyone know if either have a prototype and if so, what? Gene Green |
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rdietrichson
Gene,
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There was also a model of a Panel side boxcar that was close or an exact model of of a Santa Fe Bx-3/6. Rick Dietrichson Wilmington, NC ----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Thompson To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Roundhouse/MDC metal cars Gene Green wrote: > I am specifically interested in the old Roundhouse stock car with > metal sides and the single-sheathed box car with metal truss and wood > sides. Does anyone know if either have a prototype and if so, what? I think these two truss castings are the same. I always used to think it was the ARA box car, but haven't really checked details or dimensions. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Jon Miller <atsf@...>
close or an exact model<Sorta close from about 6 feet. If you want exact buy a Westerfield <VBG>! Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS |
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Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
Gene Green wrote:
Ulrich had a metal drop bottom GS gon. Did MDC/Roundhouse have a drop bottom gon as well?? Tom Madden |
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Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Gene,
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I have both, and the box car comes very close to an SP prototype. I'm still undecided on the stock car, and I'm a PRR modeler. Fred Freitas --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Park Varieties <parkvarieties@...> wrote:
From: Park Varieties <parkvarieties@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Roundhouse/MDC metal cars To: STMFC@... Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 8:07 PM If I remember correctly, the stock car is based loosely on the Pennsy K7 stock car. Frank Brua ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Green To: STMFC@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: [STMFC] Roundhouse/MDC metal cars Back in the day MDC made a number of freight car kits using metal castings. Except for the drop-bottom gondola I don't recall anyone ever identifying prototypes for any of the MDC metal cars. I searched the archives and came up with some information/ suppositions about the later plastic model's prototypes. I am specifically interested in the old Roundhouse stock car with metal sides and the single-sheathed box car with metal truss and wood sides. Does anyone know if either have a prototype and if so, what? Gene Green |
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Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...> wrote:
Ulrich had a metal drop bottom GS gon. Did MDC/Roundhouse have a dropOops! The Ulrich gon is what I had in mind. Gene Green |
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rgs0554
Hi Gene, Tom and all,
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This is a very fuzzy memory. I (very) vaguely remember working on a fixed bottom Roundhouse (MDC) metal gon. It may have been a transition car where the body was a plastic molding and the underframe was a die casting. Again, an even fuzzier memory of it originally being an all zamac diecast car. I think the prototype or at least the lettering was for C&O. Regards, Don Smith --- In STMFC@..., "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@...> wrote:
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Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Guyz,
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Are we confusing this with the Mantua zamak frame, pressed metal formed body, gondola that came out in the early 50's ?? I still have mine, with updated details. Fred Freitas --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Don Smith <rgs0554@...> wrote:
From: Don Smith <rgs0554@...> Subject: [STMFC] Re: Roundhouse/MDC metal cars To: STMFC@... Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 10:59 AM Hi Gene, Tom and all, This is a very fuzzy memory. I (very) vaguely remember working on a fixed bottom Roundhouse (MDC) metal gon. It may have been a transition car where the body was a plastic molding and the underframe was a die casting. Again, an even fuzzier memory of it originally being an all zamac diecast car. I think the prototype or at least the lettering was for C&O. Regards, Don Smith --- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, "Tom Madden" <tgmadden@.. .> wrote:
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Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
Gene, Don and Fred,
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MDC offered two 40' cast metal gondolas. One was a high-side car, and was offered both with flat and heap-shield (C&O) ends. IIRC, this car had a multi-piece body, with the floor, ends, and sides as separate castings which allowed the different ends to be mated with the same sides and floor. This car was later carried over into plastic with flat ends and using a die-cast underframe (same as was used on their 1960s-1970s plastic boxcars). Their other gon was a low-side, possibly of Erie prototype. It was also offered lettered for Southern, but has the wrong number of ribs for their low-sides. I still have one of these in my collection. Kind regards, Garth Frederick Freitas wrote: Guyz, |
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Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
The HO Ulrich/Walthers GS drop-bottom gon is very similar, and can be
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modified to be almost dead accurate, to CN 40' Enterprise GS gons. Many CN modellers keep an eye out for these at train shows and the like! Steve Lucas. --- In STMFC@..., "Gene Green" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:
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Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
--- In STMFC@..., "Garth G. Groff" <ggg9y@...> wrote:
and was offered both with flat and heap-shield (C&O) ends. IIRC, thiscar had a multi-piece body, with the floor, ends, and sides as separateflat ends and using a die-cast underframe (same as was used on theiralso offered lettered for Southern, but has the wrong number of ribs for I have one of each and the MDC operating ballast car as well, all in zamac, and can attest to the correctness of Garth's remarks. The gons were assembled with two small screws per side through tabs cast into the inner side of the side castings that went into holes in the floors. The ends were "locked" in place between the sides. They are the "right" era but every time I look at those things I think to myself "thank God we don't model like that anymore". They're an excellent reminder of just how far we have come in this hobby even for one such as myself who does not care for on line rags that then have to be printed to retain them in a usable form. Take care, Don Valentine |
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