Comodities Car Company leased a number of glass lined box/tank cars (XT)
for the shipment of wine with the reporting marks of CMWX. The cars
had lettering painted out for a previous owner/leasee. The photo I
have shows car #1001, which was not painted out from its previous
life. Does anyone know where these cars came from? These were 40'
cars with a 6' doorway.

Rich Burg

Rich

A SWAG -- ex-LAPX perhaps? (I assume you're not talking about the
Pfaudler cars.)

Tim O'Connor

The LAPX cars were pressurized, though, and not glass-lined, verdad?

Brian Ehni

These cars are not the Pfaudler cars, they are very similar to the Linde tank
cars of Air Products Co.(SERX), but they have a Youngstown door rather than
panel door, and the side sills run the full length of the car rather than
bolster to bolster. They lack a step below the door, which Linde cars had. The
ends are improved Dreadnaught, R-3-4 pattern. I can't see the A end to tell if
it had a small access door like the Linde cars. There is a small note next to
the door that is unreadable in the photo, but I may be able to read off the
negative at high magnification. I'll report back if I can read it. I thnk the
CMWX stands for
Chateau Martin Wine, and the photo location was San Martin, CA. (San Martin
Winery location)
Rich Burg
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--- In STMFC@..., cinderandeight@... wrote:

These cars are not the Pfaudler cars, they are very similar to the Linde tank
cars of Air Products Co.(SERX), but they have a Youngstown door rather than
panel door, and the side sills run the full length of the car rather than
bolster to bolster. They lack a step below the door, which Linde cars had. The
ends are improved Dreadnaught, R-3-4 pattern. I can't see the A end to tell if
it had a small access door like the Linde cars. There is a small note next to
the door that is unreadable in the photo, but I may be able to read off the
negative at high magnification. I'll report back if I can read it. I thnk the
CMWX stands for
Chateau Martin Wine, and the photo location was San Martin, CA. (San Martin
Winery location)
Rich Burg
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(http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005)


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Most photos of the CMWX 1000-series cars show Pfaudler cars. But Rich's 1962 photo of CMWX 1001 shows a 40-foot box car with stenciling that reads
FRAGILE CONTAINS
GLASS LINED TANKS
DO NOT HUMP

Other than the reporting marks, the car does not yet have any Chateau Martin lettering.

The photo will be added to my Chateau Martin web page shortly.

Jim Lancaster

--- In STMFC@..., "jim_lancaster.geo" <ljames1@...> wrote:

Most photos of the CMWX 1000-series cars show Pfaudler cars. But

Rich's 1962 photo of CMWX 1001 shows a 40-foot box car with stenciling
that reads

FRAGILE CONTAINS
GLASS LINED TANKS
DO NOT HUMP

Other than the reporting marks, the car does not yet have any

Chateau Martin lettering.

The photo will be added to my Chateau Martin web page shortly.

Jim Lancaster

It's now there, along with another new photo from Brian Ehni.
See http://tinyurl.com/yomnqe

J. Lancaster

There's just something about the paint scheme on that box car
and the paint-outs that says "Airco/Air Reduction/ARDX" to me.
Unfortunately I have no ARDX photos that match it, but they
did have cars with full length side sills and R+3/4 ends like
this one.

http://www.geocities.com/jim_lancaster.geo/chatmart/cmwx_10019-62_rb.jpg

Tim O'Connor

On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

There's just something about the paint scheme on that box car
and the paint-outs that says "Airco/Air Reduction/ARDX" to me.
Unfortunately I have no ARDX photos that match it, but they
did have cars with full length side sills and R+3/4 ends like
this one.

http://www.geocities.com/jim_lancaster.geo/chatmart/cmwx_10019
-62_rb.jpg

Tim O'Connor

Tim and others,
I have a builder's photo of C.O.P.X. 1001, new 8-52, that looks
identical the car in the photo in the link. To the right of the door
was "CONDENSED WHEY TANK CAR" on two lines (painted over in the on-line
photo). Above the C.O.P.X. reporting marks are stencils reading
"CONSOLIDATED PRODUCTS CO." on two lines.

In the 4/55 ORER the Consolidated Products Co. had 19 milk cars of
various numbers with 3 or 4 digits. The only 4-digit numbers were 1001
and 1002, so there must have been two such cars built.

The car was somehow associated with the C&EI as there are stencils "DV
8-13-52" and "C&EI" on the brake reservoir. DV is Danville, a major
shop of the C&EI. The original car was painted a light color, possibly
gray with black side sills, trucks, ladders, placards, hand brake
(Miner), and grabs. The seam caps were coated black
Regards,
Ed Hawkins