Hi,
I'm wondering if something's changed at Red Caboose.

About a month ago I ordered some X29 kits and had an acknowledgement from Bill, but nothing has arrived yet. I've not had a reply to 2 emails since, and now the phone appears to be unavailable.

Does anyone know if there's a problem there, please?

Des Norman

Des Norman wrote:

I'm wondering if something's changed at Red Caboose.

About a month ago I ordered some X29 kits and had an acknowledgement from Bill, but nothing has arrived yet. I've not had a reply to 2 emails since, and now the phone appears to be unavailable.

Does anyone know if there's a problem there, please?

They've moved a few miles (as I understand it), so things are in flux. Don't know specifically about the phone issue, but I'd advocate that you keep trying.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

I just talked to Bob, the sales person at Red Caboose yesterday. He said that the move will take another 2-3 weeks, and for the mean time, they are still at the old location. The new quarters are less than 2 miles away. They are still active participants in the RR mfg'ing industry.
-Andy





Hi,
I'm wondering if something's changed at Red Caboose.

About a month ago I ordered some X29 kits and had an acknowledgement
from Bill, but nothing has arrived yet. I've not had a reply to 2 emails
since, and now the phone appears to be unavailable.

Does anyone know if there's a problem there, please?

Des Norman

Andy and Tony,
Thanks, I'll just keep trying.
Des Norman

Red Caboose is in the process of moving.? Also, the X29 is out of stock.? The next run is due in June.? This is from a flyer sent to dealers.

Rich Orr

Rich,

--- In STMFC@..., SUVCWORR@... wrote:

Red Caboose is in the process of moving.>

OK I'll just have to wait for them to get straight again.

Also, the X29 is out of stock.? The next run is due in June.? This is from a flyer sent to dealers.>

Odd, when I placed the order they were in stock, hence my concern at non-arrival.

Regards,
Des Norman

Pacific Western Rail Systems is announcing that Intermountain is taking over production and marketing of Red Caboose products.

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ

Red Caboose also has it on their website, straight from the horse's mouth.  Hopefully we will soon see a Union Pacific stock car based on the SP cars they did.  Keeping the fingers crossed.

http://www.red-caboose.com/cgi-bin/e_catalog/catalog.cgi

Jason Sanford

Jason,

You will see a UP stock car from Red Caboose, as a result of efforts by the UPHS.

Regards,

-Jeff

Disclaimer: I'm on the UPHS car committee.


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Red Caboose also has it on their website, straight from the horse's mouth. Hopefully we will soon see a Union Pacific stock car based on the SP cars they did. Keeping the fingers crossed.

http://www.red-caboose.com/cgi-bin/e_catalog/catalog.cgi

Jason Sanford

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From: LOUIS WHITELEY <octoraro1@...<mailto:octoraro1%40verizon.net>>
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Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:35 PM

Pacific Western Rail Systems is announcing that Intermountain is taking over
production and marketing of Red Caboose products.

Lou Whiteley
Lawrenceville, NJ
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Thanks for the heads up!  Will I see a stock car with pre 1947 white lettering?  That is what I really need.

Jason Sanford

Jeff: Hi, I'm looking for some a couple specific UP stock car types to match traffic records on the NP, and I'm curious what number series this Red Caboose model will represent, and over what span of years they were rostered. Thanks,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

If you go by Red Caboose's classification that they are selling a S-40-5 than you are out of luck with a UP S-40-5 because they didn't have any.



The UP, OSL, and O-WR&N had S-40-4 Harriman stock cars and didn't own any S-40-5 Harriman stock cars. That is according to the Oct 2006 RMJ article called "Harriman Standard (UP/SP/WP) 36-foot Stock Cars From Red Caboose Models" by Richard Hendrickson.



According to Anthony Thompson's SP Freight Cars Volume 1 book, the S-40-5 was basically a S-40-4 with a modified underframe (double center sills). Plus it had a feed door only on the A-end of the car. And comparing a S-40-4 and a S-40-5 you can see that there is a noticable difference between the two car's underframes. The -5 appears (to me anyway) to have a larger and deeper underframe than the -4. I don't have any pictures to compare the ends on the -4 and the -5 so I can't say for sure what the differences are.



From what I have found the following railroads owned S-40-5 stock cars:

NWP (5670 to 5729) - 60 cars, built in 1916

GH&SA (62100 to 62199) - 100 cars, built in 1916

H&TC (62200 to 62349) - 150 cars, built in 1916

SP (73349 to 73798) - 450 cars, built in 1916 to 1917

SPdeM (12051 to 12091) - 51 cars, built in 1915

T&NO (62100 to 62199) - ex-GH&SA (transferred in 1930)

T&NO (62200 to 62349) ex-H&TC (transferred in 1930)



Its too bad that Red Caboose didn't start with the S-40-4 first since there were more roads that owned them including the UP, OSL, and O-WR&N. These would have included the SP, GH&SA, HE&WT, H&TC, NWP, PE, T&NO, and SPdeM.



- Steve Hedlund, Everett, WA



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Jeff: Hi, I'm looking for some a couple specific UP stock car types to match traffic records on the NP, and I'm curious what number series this Red Caboose model will represent, and over what span of years they were rostered. Thanks,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

--- In STMFC@..., "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

Jason,

You will see a UP stock car from Red Caboose, as a result of efforts by the UPHS.

Regards,
...

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=Steve Hedlund wrote:

According to Anthony Thompson's SP Freight Cars Volume 1 book, the S-40-5 was basically a S-40-4 with a modified underframe (double center sills). Plus it had a feed door only on the A-end of the car. And comparing a S-40-4 and a S-40-5 you can see that there is a noticable difference between the two car's underframes. The -5 appears (to me anyway) to have a larger and deeper underframe than the -4.

No, the contour is almost identical. The SP -5 double underframe had two center sills instead of one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

Some information for Jason Sanford.? The convention car for the UPHS in that will be in Cheyenne will be a UP Stock car from information I have at present to looks like the Society will market the car in the future.
Ryan Ballard

Steve,

All very true. The UP S-40-6 will involve new tooling. The UPHS is attempting to "get it right", lest we incur the wrath of the knowledgable members of the STMFC! :)

Regards,

-Jeff


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If you go by Red Caboose's classification that they are selling a S-40-5 than you are out of luck with a UP S-40-5 because they didn't have any.

The UP, OSL, and O-WR&N had S-40-4 Harriman stock cars and didn't own any S-40-5 Harriman stock cars. That is according to the Oct 2006 RMJ article called "Harriman Standard (UP/SP/WP) 36-foot Stock Cars From Red Caboose Models" by Richard Hendrickson.

According to Anthony Thompson's SP Freight Cars Volume 1 book, the S-40-5 was basically a S-40-4 with a modified underframe (double center sills). Plus it had a feed door only on the A-end of the car. And comparing a S-40-4 and a S-40-5 you can see that there is a noticable difference between the two car's underframes. The -5 appears (to me anyway) to have a larger and deeper underframe than the -4. I don't have any pictures to compare the ends on the -4 and the -5 so I can't say for sure what the differences are.

From what I have found the following railroads owned S-40-5 stock cars:

NWP (5670 to 5729) - 60 cars, built in 1916

GH&SA (62100 to 62199) - 100 cars, built in 1916

H&TC (62200 to 62349) - 150 cars, built in 1916

SP (73349 to 73798) - 450 cars, built in 1916 to 1917

SPdeM (12051 to 12091) - 51 cars, built in 1915

T&NO (62100 to 62199) - ex-GH&SA (transferred in 1930)

T&NO (62200 to 62349) ex-H&TC (transferred in 1930)

Its too bad that Red Caboose didn't start with the S-40-4 first since there were more roads that owned them including the UP, OSL, and O-WR&N. These would have included the SP, GH&SA, HE&WT, H&TC, NWP, PE, T&NO, and SPdeM.

- Steve Hedlund, Everett, WA


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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Red Caboose

Jeff: Hi, I'm looking for some a couple specific UP stock car types to match traffic records on the NP, and I'm curious what number series this Red Caboose model will represent, and over what span of years they were rostered. Thanks,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

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Jason,

You will see a UP stock car from Red Caboose, as a result of efforts by the UPHS.

Regards,
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Chris,

I can definitely say that the cars will be UP S-40-6, but the details differed on some of the cars, and the details changed over the years. I am not sure which detail version will be produced; you'll have to wait for an official announcment for that.

What specific UP stock cars are you looking for, and what year do you model?

Regards,

-Jeff


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Jeff: Hi, I'm looking for some a couple specific UP stock car types to match traffic records on the NP, and I'm curious what number series this Red Caboose model will represent, and over what span of years they were rostered. Thanks,

Chris Frissell
Polson, MT

--- In STMFC@...<mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>, "Aley, Jeff A" <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

Jason,

You will see a UP stock car from Red Caboose, as a result of efforts by the UPHS.

Regards,
...

I model 1942 so I need white lettering, please.

Jason Sanford