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Stan Kistler's Santa Fe Book-- Great Northern Iron Ore Cars Visit California
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gary laakso
I received my copy of the wonderfully well done Stan Kistler's Santa Fe in Black and White and there on pages 100-101 is a picture of 3 Fairbanks-Morse 1600 HP road switchers in San Bernardino, CA leaving for the Kaiser Steel mill with about 27 Great Northern iron ore cars on Dec 16, 1951. I assume the Korean War needs had something to do with this assignment!
gary laakso south of Mike Brock vasa0vasa@... |
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Interesting. I think the early 1950's was when many of the Missabe
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mines were starting to play out, since taconite had not yet come into production. So there may have been an excess of ore cars up there. And SP didn't get their 100 ton ore gondolas until 1958, IIRC. I'd love to see a shot of GN ore cars on Beaumont Hill behind a 4-10-2! Tim O'Connor At 8/10/2009 02:00 PM Monday, you wrote:
I received my copy of the wonderfully well done Stan Kistler's Santa Fe in Black and White and there on pages 100-101 is a picture of 3 Fairbanks-Morse 1600 HP road switchers in San Bernardino, CA leaving for the Kaiser Steel mill with about 27 Great Northern iron ore cars on Dec 16, 1951. I assume the Korean War needs had something to do with this assignment! |
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ATSF1226
The mining in the Missabe mines is somewhat seasonal because of the weather, the lakes freeze up. Maybe because of the war they are hauling ore to Kaiser mill or they could be lease cars so they are not setting unemployed all winter. The Missabe railroad leased some of it's big steam power during the winters. There are also pictures in Chard Walkers Cajon Pass book of GN Ore cars in Santa Fe trains.
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George A Walls Interesting. I think the early 1950's was when many of the Missabe |
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Where was iron ore found on the Santa Fe, for shipment to California?
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Tim O At 8/10/2009 04:46 PM Monday, you wrote:
The mining in the Missabe mines is somewhat seasonal because of the weather, the lakes freeze up. Maybe because of the war they are hauling ore to Kaiser mill or they could be lease cars so they are not setting unemployed all winter. The Missabe railroad leased some of it's big steam power during the winters. There are also pictures in Chard Walkers Cajon Pass book of GN Ore cars in Santa Fe trains. |
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Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
Hi Tim,
Some iron ore for Kaiser came from the Vulcan Mine near Kelso, Calif., on the UP's South Central District, and was interchanged to the Santa Fe at Barstow. However, I'm not sure that was the movement depicted in Stan's photo showing GN ore cars. Andy Andy Sperandeo Executive Editor Model Railroader magazine asperandeo@... 262-796-8776, ext. 461 FAX 262-796-1142 |
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John Hile
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Hello Any, I have read that the production at the Vulcan mine for Kaiser was from 1942 to 1948. After that, Kaiser utilized the Eagle Mtn mine. John Hile |
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Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
Hi John,
I've read the same thing about the Vulcan Mine. That's why I said I wasn't sure it had anything to do with those GN cars. So long, Andy Andy Sperandeo Executive Editor Model Railroader magazine asperandeo@... 262-796-8776, ext. 461 FAX 262-796-1142 |
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