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stevelucas3 <stevelucas3@...>
I can understand the attractiveness of "limited runs" to the LHS in today's economy. Customers pre-order the model, and on arrival at the LHS, it flies out the door. Not too much risk for the dealer at all. Minimal investment, maximum return.
But modellers interested in what is being produced also have one shot. Will the model be an excellent one, decent, or an outright dog? I've seen both, with one person that I know being stuck with a dozen limited-run cars that had major errors in detail and lettering.
Caveat emptor, indeed!
Steve Lucas.
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But modellers interested in what is being produced also have one shot. Will the model be an excellent one, decent, or an outright dog? I've seen both, with one person that I know being stuck with a dozen limited-run cars that had major errors in detail and lettering.
Caveat emptor, indeed!
Steve Lucas.
--- In STMFC@..., "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:
Almost certainly off limits, but before the jail door slams...
Most of today's rolling stock and locomotive models are limited production, produced to order. Regardless of what our thoughts might be on this, that's the way it is. This means that dealers often have one shot, the product comes in, and (hopefully for them) goes out. There is rarely the opportunity to go back for more. All of which makes the printed catalog as we know it pretty much obsolete. Better to talk to the dealer before ordering and not rely on a catalog, no matter how timely it may seem to be.
Uh oh..... Here come 'da judge... ! :>)
Bill Schneider
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Dealers
Caveat emptor, Armand. Choose well.This may very well be off limits,but I am beginning to be extremely
frustrated with certain dealers who print elaborate catalogues and find that
a large percentage of the items included are either discontinued or out of
stock.Deceptive advertising or wishful thinking?Armand Premo
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Dave Nelson
Tim O'Connor wrote:
FWIW I wrote to Bruce Walthers, oh, more than ten years ago (it was way back
when you ran the FCL via e-mail Tim and Netscape was the new thing) and
described for him how Kodak used this exact process for film development
(mail to Kodak, pick up at drug store). His reply indicated he thought it
was a great idea. Am curious how long it took between then and whenver this
process was made available. Anyone know?
Dave Nelson
I will add I recently discovered that on the Walthers web page, you
can create an order and have this order fulfilled through a hobby
shop dealer of your choice. Your dealer receives a copy of the order
by email, and I suppose some other paperwork like an invoice to the
dealer... And Walthers keeps their inventory up to date so you can
tell when you order if the item is in stock or not in stock, and
whether you want to "back order" (or reserve a future item) or not.
The nice thing is that if your dealer gives you a discount then the
"price" shown by Walthers (usually MSRP) is not what you will
actually pay - your discount will not be affected by this method.
Tim O'Connor
FWIW I wrote to Bruce Walthers, oh, more than ten years ago (it was way back
when you ran the FCL via e-mail Tim and Netscape was the new thing) and
described for him how Kodak used this exact process for film development
(mail to Kodak, pick up at drug store). His reply indicated he thought it
was a great idea. Am curious how long it took between then and whenver this
process was made available. Anyone know?
Dave Nelson
I will add I recently discovered that on the Walthers web page,
you can create an order and have this order fulfilled through a
hobby shop dealer of your choice. Your dealer receives a copy of
the order by email, and I suppose some other paperwork like an
invoice to the dealer... And Walthers keeps their inventory up to
date so you can tell when you order if the item is in stock or
not in stock, and whether you want to "back order" (or reserve a
future item) or not. The nice thing is that if your dealer gives
you a discount then the "price" shown by Walthers (usually MSRP)
is not what you will actually pay - your discount will not be
affected by this method.
Tim O'Connor
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you can create an order and have this order fulfilled through a
hobby shop dealer of your choice. Your dealer receives a copy of
the order by email, and I suppose some other paperwork like an
invoice to the dealer... And Walthers keeps their inventory up to
date so you can tell when you order if the item is in stock or
not in stock, and whether you want to "back order" (or reserve a
future item) or not. The nice thing is that if your dealer gives
you a discount then the "price" shown by Walthers (usually MSRP)
is not what you will actually pay - your discount will not be
affected by this method.
Tim O'Connor
Almost certainly off limits, but before the jail door slams...
Most of today's rolling stock and locomotive models are limited production, produced to order. Regardless of what our thoughts might be on this, that's the way it is. This means that dealers often have one shot, the product comes in, and (hopefully for them) goes out. There is rarely the opportunity to go back for more. All of which makes the printed catalog as we know it pretty much obsolete. Better to talk to the dealer before ordering and not rely on a catalog, no matter how timely it may seem to be.
Uh oh..... Here come 'da judge... ! :>)
Bill Schneider
Bill Schneider
Almost certainly off limits, but before the jail door slams...
Most of today's rolling stock and locomotive models are limited production, produced to order. Regardless of what our thoughts might be on this, that's the way it is. This means that dealers often have one shot, the product comes in, and (hopefully for them) goes out. There is rarely the opportunity to go back for more. All of which makes the printed catalog as we know it pretty much obsolete. Better to talk to the dealer before ordering and not rely on a catalog, no matter how timely it may seem to be.
Uh oh..... Here come 'da judge... ! :>)
Bill Schneider
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Dealers
Caveat emptor, Armand. Choose well.
Most of today's rolling stock and locomotive models are limited production, produced to order. Regardless of what our thoughts might be on this, that's the way it is. This means that dealers often have one shot, the product comes in, and (hopefully for them) goes out. There is rarely the opportunity to go back for more. All of which makes the printed catalog as we know it pretty much obsolete. Better to talk to the dealer before ordering and not rely on a catalog, no matter how timely it may seem to be.
Uh oh..... Here come 'da judge... ! :>)
Bill Schneider
From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:24 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Dealers
Caveat emptor, Armand. Choose well.
This may very well be off limits,but I am beginning to be extremely
frustrated with certain dealers who print elaborate catalogues and find that
a large percentage of the items included are either discontinued or out of
stock.Deceptive advertising or wishful thinking?Armand Premo
Caveat emptor, Armand. Choose well.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
This may very well be off limits,but I am beginning to be extremely
frustrated with certain dealers who print elaborate catalogues and find that
a large percentage of the items included are either discontinued or out of
stock.Deceptive advertising or wishful thinking?Armand Premo