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Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938


Wendye Ware
 

Hi Everyone

Here is a summary of a Union Pacific Freight Conductors' Train Book recorded by a U.P. conductor named Fitz from September 16, 1938 to October 24, 1938. During this time period Conductor Fitz rode 36 trains on the U.P. mainline between Laramie and Rawlins, Wyoming. Fitz's Train Book overlaps that of Fraley in time and place and helps to flesh out our information about that setting (see previous posts for summaries of Fraley's Train Book).

The 36 trains were evenly split between east- and west-bound. In aggregate there were 2,362 cars, an average of 66 cars per train. Motive power was supplied by 3900 series 4-6-6-4s and 9000 series 4-12-2s. The average train weighed 2,704 tons.

The total number of eastbound cars was about the same as those heading west: 1,170 EB vs. 1,192 WB. However, there was a big difference in the load/empty ratios: EB cars had 1,086 loads and 84 empties, while WB cars had 452 loads and 740 empties.

Eight WB trains were empty, or nearly so: They had a total of ten loads and 655 empties. The longest train of the entire 36 was among this group of eight – it had one load and 95 empties. Fitz's record of this trip includes the note "Hot Box".

The distribution of the cars, by ownership, is:

Road and number of cars
PFE 908
UP 650
MDT 86
SP 64
MILW 46
CNW 37
GTW 32
PRR 31
CB&Q 30
NYC 29
UCR 25
SLSF 20
IC 19
WP 18
ATSF 17
DT&I 16
NWX 15
RI 13
T&P 13
MP 12
GATX 10
MC 10
NP 10
UTLX 10
ART 9
PM 9
T&NO 9
SFRD 8
URT 8
B&O 7
ATLX 6
KCS 6
NADX 6
NKP 6
CDLX 5
CMO 5
D&RGW 5
ERIE 5
SOUTHERN 5
Others 142
Total 2,362

Conductor Fitz recorded the car type for all but 58 cars. The distribution of car types, EB, WB, and total, is:

Type: EB, WB, Total
R: 539, 532, 1071 (Reefers)
B: 215, 254, 469 (Box)
A: 122, 151, 273 (Auto)
C: 120, 94, 214 (Primarily gons, hoppers, and ballast)
D: 31, 40, 71 (Double deck stock)
(blank): 51, 7, 58 (Not listed)
T: 25, 30, 55 (Tank)
S: 25, 29, 54 (Stock)
F: 4, 15, 19 (Flat)
?: 11, 6, 17 (Illegible)
C or G: 16, 0, 16
G: 0, 11, 11 (Gon)
Others: 11, 23, 34
Total: 1170, 1192, 2362

The "C" type is somewhat of a grab bag and includes a few tank cars, box or auto cars, and even a PFE reefer.

Ownership of the 1,071 reefers is dominated by PFE (905), followed by MDT (86).

Ownership of the 742 box and auto cars is distributed as follows:

Road and number of box and auto cars
UP 313
SP 62
GTW 32
CB&Q 30
MILW 28
NYC 23
PRR 22
WP 18
CNW 16
DT&I 16
IC 14
RI 13
MP 12
ATSF 10
MC 10
T&P 10
NP 9
PM 9
T&NO 9
SLSF 6
B&O 5
ERIE 5
NKP 5
Others 65
Grand Total 742

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


gn3397 <heninger@...>
 

Larry,
Thanks for compiling all of this data for the group. As a GN enthusiast, I find the relative lack of GN cars on the UP in the Thirties interesting. I wonder if this is due to the economic effects of the Depression, as the late 30s photos of GN freights I have seen have a higher proportion of home road cars than postwar freights. I find it interesting that NP, CB&Q, and MILW cars show up in higher numbers than GN cars, which seems to reinforce the argument of those who state that you should have more cars from direct connecting roads.

It will be interesting to compare the statistics from the Forties and Fifties books in your collection, when you are able to analyze them.

Sincerely,
Bob Heninger
Iowa City, IA


Rod Miller
 

Thank you compiling this data Larry.

laramielarry wrote:
Hi Everyone
Here is a summary of a Union Pacific Freight Conductors' Train Book
recorded by a U.P. conductor named Fitz from September 16, 1938 to
October 24, 1938.
[big snip]

6 CDLX
[big snip]

Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g.,
car type, car number?

Thanks

Rod


Wendye Ware
 

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:

Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g.,
car type, car number?
Hi Rod

All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were westbound empties with destination "SP". They were on four separate trains with dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two cars, together), and 10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers were 844, 181, 887, 123, and 846.

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming


Rod Miller
 

Thank you, Larry.

Rod

laramielarry wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:
Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g., car type,
car number?
Hi Rod
All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were westbound
empties with destination "SP". They were on four separate trains with
dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two cars, together), and
10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers were 844, 181, 887, 123, and
846.
Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Richard Hendrickson
 

On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:23 AM, laramielarry wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:

Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g.,
car type, car number?
Hi Rod

All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were
westbound empties with destination "SP". They were on four
separate trains with dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two
cars, together), and 10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers
were 844, 181, 887, 123, and 846.
According to the 10/38 ORER:
CDLX 123 was an 8,000 gal. ARA III in the 116-126 series.
CDLX 181 was an 8,000 gal. ICC-103 in the 178-200 series, built by
AC&F to the Type 27 design in 1930.
CDLX 844, 846, and 887 were 8,000 gal. insulated ARA IV in the
825-896 series.

California Despatch Line was in the business of shipping bulk wine
even before prohibition, and continued to do so after prohibition
ended in 1933. However, most of the insulated glass-lined (and
mostly but not entirely multiple compartment) cars designed
specifically for this service were delivered in 1940 and later. Most
of the CDLX insulated cars on the roster in the 1930s were in asphalt
service, and it is likely that the cars in the 825-896 series were
used for asphalt or other petroleum product loading.

Richard Hendrickson


Mark
 

Thanks Larry!
 
Mark Morgan

--- On Sun, 10/11/09, laramielarry <larryostresh@...> wrote:


From: laramielarry <larryostresh@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938
To: STMFC@...
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 9:40 PM


 



Hi Everyone

Here is a summary of a Union Pacific Freight Conductors' Train Book recorded by a U.P. conductor named Fitz from September 16, 1938 to October 24, 1938. During this time period Conductor Fitz rode 36 trains on the U.P. mainline between Laramie and Rawlins, Wyoming. Fitz's Train Book overlaps that of Fraley in time and place and helps to flesh out our information about that setting (see previous posts for summaries of Fraley's Train Book).

The 36 trains were evenly split between east- and west-bound. In aggregate there were 2,362 cars, an average of 66 cars per train. Motive power was supplied by 3900 series 4-6-6-4s and 9000 series 4-12-2s. The average train weighed 2,704 tons.

The total number of eastbound cars was about the same as those heading west: 1,170 EB vs. 1,192 WB. However, there was a big difference in the load/empty ratios: EB cars had 1,086 loads and 84 empties, while WB cars had 452 loads and 740 empties.

Eight WB trains were empty, or nearly so: They had a total of ten loads and 655 empties. The longest train of the entire 36 was among this group of eight – it had one load and 95 empties. Fitz's record of this trip includes the note "Hot Box".

The distribution of the cars, by ownership, is:

Road and number of cars
PFE 908
UP 650
MDT 86
SP 64
MILW 46
CNW 37
GTW 32
PRR 31
CB&Q 30
NYC 29
UCR 25
SLSF 20
IC 19
WP 18
ATSF 17
DT&I 16
NWX 15
RI 13
T&P 13
MP 12
GATX 10
MC 10
NP 10
UTLX 10
ART 9
PM 9
T&NO 9
SFRD 8
URT 8
B&O 7
ATLX 6
KCS 6
NADX 6
NKP 6
CDLX 5
CMO 5
D&RGW 5
ERIE 5
SOUTHERN 5
Others 142
Total 2,362

Conductor Fitz recorded the car type for all but 58 cars. The distribution of car types, EB, WB, and total, is:

Type: EB, WB, Total
R: 539, 532, 1071 (Reefers)
B: 215, 254, 469 (Box)
A: 122, 151, 273 (Auto)
C: 120, 94, 214 (Primarily gons, hoppers, and ballast)
D: 31, 40, 71 (Double deck stock)
(blank): 51, 7, 58 (Not listed)
T: 25, 30, 55 (Tank)
S: 25, 29, 54 (Stock)
F: 4, 15, 19 (Flat)
?: 11, 6, 17 (Illegible)
C or G: 16, 0, 16
G: 0, 11, 11 (Gon)
Others: 11, 23, 34
Total: 1170, 1192, 2362

The "C" type is somewhat of a grab bag and includes a few tank cars, box or auto cars, and even a PFE reefer.

Ownership of the 1,071 reefers is dominated by PFE (905), followed by MDT (86).

Ownership of the 742 box and auto cars is distributed as follows:

Road and number of box and auto cars
UP 313
SP 62
GTW 32
CB&Q 30
MILW 28
NYC 23
PRR 22
WP 18
CNW 16
DT&I 16
IC 14
RI 13
MP 12
ATSF 10
MC 10
T&P 10
NP 9
PM 9
T&NO 9
SLSF 6
B&O 5
ERIE 5
NKP 5
Others 65
Grand Total 742

Best wishes,
Larry Ostresh
Laramie, Wyoming



















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