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Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938
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Wendye Ware
Hi Everyone
Here is a summary of a Union Pacific Freight Conductors' Train Book recorded by a U.P. conductor named Fitz from September 16, 1938 to October 24, 1938. During this time period Conductor Fitz rode 36 trains on the U.P. mainline between Laramie and Rawlins, Wyoming. Fitz's Train Book overlaps that of Fraley in time and place and helps to flesh out our information about that setting (see previous posts for summaries of Fraley's Train Book). The 36 trains were evenly split between east- and west-bound. In aggregate there were 2,362 cars, an average of 66 cars per train. Motive power was supplied by 3900 series 4-6-6-4s and 9000 series 4-12-2s. The average train weighed 2,704 tons. The total number of eastbound cars was about the same as those heading west: 1,170 EB vs. 1,192 WB. However, there was a big difference in the load/empty ratios: EB cars had 1,086 loads and 84 empties, while WB cars had 452 loads and 740 empties. Eight WB trains were empty, or nearly so: They had a total of ten loads and 655 empties. The longest train of the entire 36 was among this group of eight – it had one load and 95 empties. Fitz's record of this trip includes the note "Hot Box". The distribution of the cars, by ownership, is: Road and number of cars PFE 908 UP 650 MDT 86 SP 64 MILW 46 CNW 37 GTW 32 PRR 31 CB&Q 30 NYC 29 UCR 25 SLSF 20 IC 19 WP 18 ATSF 17 DT&I 16 NWX 15 RI 13 T&P 13 MP 12 GATX 10 MC 10 NP 10 UTLX 10 ART 9 PM 9 T&NO 9 SFRD 8 URT 8 B&O 7 ATLX 6 KCS 6 NADX 6 NKP 6 CDLX 5 CMO 5 D&RGW 5 ERIE 5 SOUTHERN 5 Others 142 Total 2,362 Conductor Fitz recorded the car type for all but 58 cars. The distribution of car types, EB, WB, and total, is: Type: EB, WB, Total R: 539, 532, 1071 (Reefers) B: 215, 254, 469 (Box) A: 122, 151, 273 (Auto) C: 120, 94, 214 (Primarily gons, hoppers, and ballast) D: 31, 40, 71 (Double deck stock) (blank): 51, 7, 58 (Not listed) T: 25, 30, 55 (Tank) S: 25, 29, 54 (Stock) F: 4, 15, 19 (Flat) ?: 11, 6, 17 (Illegible) C or G: 16, 0, 16 G: 0, 11, 11 (Gon) Others: 11, 23, 34 Total: 1170, 1192, 2362 The "C" type is somewhat of a grab bag and includes a few tank cars, box or auto cars, and even a PFE reefer. Ownership of the 1,071 reefers is dominated by PFE (905), followed by MDT (86). Ownership of the 742 box and auto cars is distributed as follows: Road and number of box and auto cars UP 313 SP 62 GTW 32 CB&Q 30 MILW 28 NYC 23 PRR 22 WP 18 CNW 16 DT&I 16 IC 14 RI 13 MP 12 ATSF 10 MC 10 T&P 10 NP 9 PM 9 T&NO 9 SLSF 6 B&O 5 ERIE 5 NKP 5 Others 65 Grand Total 742 Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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gn3397 <heninger@...>
Larry,
Thanks for compiling all of this data for the group. As a GN enthusiast, I find the relative lack of GN cars on the UP in the Thirties interesting. I wonder if this is due to the economic effects of the Depression, as the late 30s photos of GN freights I have seen have a higher proportion of home road cars than postwar freights. I find it interesting that NP, CB&Q, and MILW cars show up in higher numbers than GN cars, which seems to reinforce the argument of those who state that you should have more cars from direct connecting roads. It will be interesting to compare the statistics from the Forties and Fifties books in your collection, when you are able to analyze them. Sincerely, Bob Heninger Iowa City, IA
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Rod Miller
Thank you compiling this data Larry.
laramielarry wrote: Hi Everyone[big snip] 6 CDLX[big snip] Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g., car type, car number? Thanks Rod
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Wendye Ware
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:
Hi Rod All of the CDLX cars were of type "T" (tank), and all were westbound empties with destination "SP". They were on four separate trains with dates 10/9/1938, 10/14/1938, 10/17/1938 (two cars, together), and 10/21/1938. In date order, the car numbers were 844, 181, 887, 123, and 846. Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Rod Miller
Thank you, Larry.
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Rod laramielarry wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:Is there any other information about the CDLX cars, e.g., car type,Hi Rod
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Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 12, 2009, at 1:23 AM, laramielarry wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:According to the 10/38 ORER:Hi Rod CDLX 123 was an 8,000 gal. ARA III in the 116-126 series. CDLX 181 was an 8,000 gal. ICC-103 in the 178-200 series, built by AC&F to the Type 27 design in 1930. CDLX 844, 846, and 887 were 8,000 gal. insulated ARA IV in the 825-896 series. California Despatch Line was in the business of shipping bulk wine even before prohibition, and continued to do so after prohibition ended in 1933. However, most of the insulated glass-lined (and mostly but not entirely multiple compartment) cars designed specifically for this service were delivered in 1940 and later. Most of the CDLX insulated cars on the roster in the 1930s were in asphalt service, and it is likely that the cars in the 825-896 series were used for asphalt or other petroleum product loading. Richard Hendrickson
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Mark
Thanks Larry!
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Mark Morgan
--- On Sun, 10/11/09, laramielarry <larryostresh@gmail.com> wrote:
From: laramielarry <larryostresh@gmail.com> Subject: [STMFC] Conductors Train Book, Fitz, Sept - Oct, 1938 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 9:40 PM Hi Everyone Here is a summary of a Union Pacific Freight Conductors' Train Book recorded by a U.P. conductor named Fitz from September 16, 1938 to October 24, 1938. During this time period Conductor Fitz rode 36 trains on the U.P. mainline between Laramie and Rawlins, Wyoming. Fitz's Train Book overlaps that of Fraley in time and place and helps to flesh out our information about that setting (see previous posts for summaries of Fraley's Train Book). The 36 trains were evenly split between east- and west-bound. In aggregate there were 2,362 cars, an average of 66 cars per train. Motive power was supplied by 3900 series 4-6-6-4s and 9000 series 4-12-2s. The average train weighed 2,704 tons. The total number of eastbound cars was about the same as those heading west: 1,170 EB vs. 1,192 WB. However, there was a big difference in the load/empty ratios: EB cars had 1,086 loads and 84 empties, while WB cars had 452 loads and 740 empties. Eight WB trains were empty, or nearly so: They had a total of ten loads and 655 empties. The longest train of the entire 36 was among this group of eight – it had one load and 95 empties. Fitz's record of this trip includes the note "Hot Box". The distribution of the cars, by ownership, is: Road and number of cars PFE 908 UP 650 MDT 86 SP 64 MILW 46 CNW 37 GTW 32 PRR 31 CB&Q 30 NYC 29 UCR 25 SLSF 20 IC 19 WP 18 ATSF 17 DT&I 16 NWX 15 RI 13 T&P 13 MP 12 GATX 10 MC 10 NP 10 UTLX 10 ART 9 PM 9 T&NO 9 SFRD 8 URT 8 B&O 7 ATLX 6 KCS 6 NADX 6 NKP 6 CDLX 5 CMO 5 D&RGW 5 ERIE 5 SOUTHERN 5 Others 142 Total 2,362 Conductor Fitz recorded the car type for all but 58 cars. The distribution of car types, EB, WB, and total, is: Type: EB, WB, Total R: 539, 532, 1071 (Reefers) B: 215, 254, 469 (Box) A: 122, 151, 273 (Auto) C: 120, 94, 214 (Primarily gons, hoppers, and ballast) D: 31, 40, 71 (Double deck stock) (blank): 51, 7, 58 (Not listed) T: 25, 30, 55 (Tank) S: 25, 29, 54 (Stock) F: 4, 15, 19 (Flat) ?: 11, 6, 17 (Illegible) C or G: 16, 0, 16 G: 0, 11, 11 (Gon) Others: 11, 23, 34 Total: 1170, 1192, 2362 The "C" type is somewhat of a grab bag and includes a few tank cars, box or auto cars, and even a PFE reefer. Ownership of the 1,071 reefers is dominated by PFE (905), followed by MDT (86). Ownership of the 742 box and auto cars is distributed as follows: Road and number of box and auto cars UP 313 SP 62 GTW 32 CB&Q 30 MILW 28 NYC 23 PRR 22 WP 18 CNW 16 DT&I 16 IC 14 RI 13 MP 12 ATSF 10 MC 10 T&P 10 NP 9 PM 9 T&NO 9 SLSF 6 B&O 5 ERIE 5 NKP 5 Others 65 Grand Total 742 Best wishes, Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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