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IC 40' box car decal
frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@...>
Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,
Staffan Ehnbom
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Frederick Freitas <prrinvt@...>
Steffan,
           Check the messages section of the group site. IIRC, a list member was advertising IC decals within the past 2 weeks. Fred Freitas ________________________________ From: frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 3:40:45 PM Subject: [STMFC] IC 40' box car decal  Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance, Staffan Ehnbom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Staffan, the Illinois Central (steam era) has really gotten the
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short end of the stick decal-wise, even while Dan Kohlberg has produced a boatload of beautiful IC/ICG decals for the post-STMFC era. Even CDS, and Mark Vaughan, ignored the IC. I sent a copy of a beautiful photo of IC 20223 (stenciled for automobile engine loading and a "return empty to" stencil) to Intermountain in the hope they would produce a model of the IC "1940" AAR box cars but no luck there either. I agree with you about the shortcomings of Champ HB-150 but that's just about all there is... Tim O'Connor
At 5/28/2010 03:40 PM Friday, you wrote:
Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,
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Maybe Jerry Glow would be interested? He does some great looking accurate sets.
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 Rich Christie
--- On Fri, 5/28/10, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] IC 40' box car decal To: STMFC@... Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 5:23 PM Â Staffan, the Illinois Central (steam era) has really gotten the short end of the stick decal-wise, even while Dan Kohlberg has produced a boatload of beautiful IC/ICG decals for the post-STMFC era. Even CDS, and Mark Vaughan, ignored the IC. I sent a copy of a beautiful photo of IC 20223 (stenciled for automobile engine loading and a "return empty to" stencil) to Intermountain in the hope they would produce a model of the IC "1940" AAR box cars but no luck there either. I agree with you about the shortcomings of Champ HB-150 but that's just about all there is... Tim O'Connor At 5/28/2010 03:40 PM Friday, you wrote: Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance,
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Rich
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Jerry needs very clear, straight-on photos or hi-res scans. Got any? Tim
At 5/28/2010 06:46 PM Friday, you wrote:
Maybe Jerry Glow would be interested? He does some great looking accurate sets.
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Rich
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Jerry needs very clear, straight-on photos or hi-res scans. Got any? Tim
At 5/28/2010 06:46 PM Friday, you wrote:
Maybe Jerry Glow would be interested? He does some great looking accurate sets.
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jerryglow2
I am! I wanted an IC car for myself anyway. Send me any (good) pics on info you have. OFF LIST of course.
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Jerry Glow
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Staffan Ehnbom <staffan.ehnbom@...>
Thanks Fred, Rich and Tim. We have received a couple of threads to pursue.
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Staffan Ehnbom
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From: Rich C To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] IC 40' box car decal Maybe Jerry Glow would be interested? He does some great looking accurate sets. Rich Christie --- On Fri, 5/28/10, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote: From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] IC 40' box car decal To: STMFC@... Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 5:23 PM Staffan, the Illinois Central (steam era) has really gotten the short end of the stick decal-wise, even while Dan Kohlberg has produced a boatload of beautiful IC/ICG decals for the post-STMFC era. Even CDS, and Mark Vaughan, ignored the IC. I sent a copy of a beautiful photo of IC 20223 (stenciled for automobile engine loading and a "return empty to" stencil) to Intermountain in the hope they would produce a model of the IC "1940" AAR box cars but no luck there either. I agree with you about the shortcomings of Champ HB-150 but that's just about all there is... Tim O'Connor At 5/28/2010 03:40 PM Friday, you wrote: >Where can I find lettering for an HO 40' IC box car like the 18629 in the photo on p. 22 of the RP Cyc 4? The Champ set no. HB-150 seems a bit oversized judging by the Champ Lettering Plan Book. Thanks in advance, > >Staffan Ehnbom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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jerryglow2
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--- In STMFC@..., "frtcar" <staffan.ehnbom@...> wrote:
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Scott Pitzer
In many cases-- not sure if during this list's era-- the border around the routing or assignment instructions was a dashed line. I modeled this (once) using the separator stripe Champ sometimes used between a box car set's 40' and 50' data sections.
Scott Pitzer
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jerryglow2
Yes I have seen that in one of the pictures I'm working from. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Jerry Glow
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pwkrueger <kruegerp@...>
Could this set be used for pre-"mainline" slogan cars also?
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Thanks, Paul Seattle, WA
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jerryglow2
If you look at the pics on the info sheet for MK10 mini-kit on Jim Hayes' excellent "unofficial" Sunshine site, you'll see one with and one without and a date (1949 IIRC) when they started using it.
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Jerry Glow http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/decals/
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golden1014
Hi Jerry,
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Thanks for doing this--you're going to be the new Champ. The set looks really great. Would it be possible/practical to add a small variety of different shop dates as well? I model 1950 and really hate having to piece together earlier shop dates. Thanks for considering! John John Golden Bloomington, IN
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Ray Breyer
Could this set be used for Hi Paul, "Mostly". Jerry will have to reduce the size of the reporting marks to match the number's size, and add lines above and below. At that point the decal set will be good for the 1930s through the 1960s. (adding and/or deleting specific items as necessary). Regards, Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
I second John's motion. I, too, model 1950.
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Gene Green
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John, for modelers of the late 40's to very early 50's the Sunshine
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reweigh stencil sets cover those dates nicely -- HOWEVER it appears even Sunshine did not include the IC in any of the sets I have, E.51 through E.59! Sheesh what have people got against the IC? :-) Now if it were only possible to find reweigh dates for 1955 to 1965! Tim O'Connor
At 5/30/2010 09:35 AM Sunday, you wrote:
Hi Jerry,
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Ray Breyer wrote:
"Mostly". Jerry will have to reduce the size of the reporting marks to match the number's size, and add lines above and below. At that point the decal set will be good for the 1930s through the 1960s. (adding and/or deleting specific items as necessary).Ray makes a good point for railroads besides IC. Before WW II it was common to use 7-inch characters for both initials and car numbers, but after the war (I don't have the date handy) the AAR recommended 9-inch initials with the 7-inch numbers, and many roads complied. If someone can supply the date easily, that might be useful for all of us to know. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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What's wrong with the Champ reweight sets? HD-50-53 and HD-60-67
Brian J. Carlson, P.E. Cheektowaga NY prrk41361@... From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 1:17 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: IC 40' box car decal John, for modelers of the late 40's to very early 50's the Sunshine reweigh stencil sets cover those dates nicely -- HOWEVER it appears even Sunshine did not include the IC in any of the sets I have, E.51 through E.59! Sheesh what have people got against the IC? :-) Now if it were only possible to find reweigh dates for 1955 to 1965! Tim O'Connor At 5/30/2010 09:35 AM Sunday, you wrote: Hi Jerry,really great. Would it be possible/practical to add a small variety of different shop dates as well? I model 1950 and really hate having to piece together earlier shop dates.
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generic... I've used them because that's all I could find, but
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besides the usual Champ issues, they are generic
At 5/30/2010 04:21 PM Sunday, you wrote:
What's wrong with the Champ reweight sets? HD-50-53 and HD-60-67
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