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so that's how they did it!
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Barrybennetttoo@...
They don't appear to me to have anything much mounted, maybe just car
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bodies being shipped to an assembly plant. Barry Bennett
In a message dated 08/06/2010 07:01:20 GMT Standard Time,
timboconnor@... writes: A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551) Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do
not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor
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Al Campbell
Hi: My guess is a 1957 Pontiac wagon. That stylized rocket on the side
panels of the upper car gives it away. I had one similar to it. Regards, Al Campbell
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Also the only way they could get them in there in 2 layers. No axles,
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either? Elden Gatwood
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:25 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor
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water.kresse@...
Guys,
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After WW2 the Auto Industry jobbed out a lot of the Station Wagon bodies to small contractors who had built auto-type assemblies for the war efforts. Ionia Mfg (Ionia, Michigan) produced extended Jeep bodies, truck box sub-assemblies with seats and canvass, etc. They then produced Buick Stn Wagon bodies that were shipped on their body trucks to Buick City in Flint, Michigan, to be dropped on running frame assemblies to then have the bolt-on front end sheet metal and bumpers added. I believe they produced other GM "Woody" Stn Wagon bodies also. Fisher Body Chevy produced their own wagon bodies. Great shot! Does anyone recognize the body style? Al Kresse
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From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 2:25:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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water.kresse@...
It was frame and running chassis separate from the bodies in those days!
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From: "Elden J SAD Gatwood " < elden .j. gatwood @ usace .army.mil> To: STMFC @ yahoogroups .com Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 7:42:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [ STMFC ] so that's how they did it! Also the only way they could get them in there in 2 layers. No axles, either? Elden Gatwood -----Original Message----- From: STMFC @ yahoogroups .com [ mailto : STMFC @ yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:25 AM To: STMFC @ yahoogroups .com Subject: [ STMFC ] so that's how they did it! A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http :// cgi . ebay .com/ ws / eBayISAPI . dll ? ViewItem &item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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water.kresse@...
Later on, in the early-60s, they would ship the wagon bodies mounted on their body trucks on double-deck flat cars. Once they got into the assembly plant, a chain drive would grab the body truck (mounted on casters) to the body marraige machine to be dropped on body mounts to be bolted on to the frame (just like a full-sized truck today).
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From: "Elden J SAD Gatwood" <elden.j.gatwood@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 7:42:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! Also the only way they could get them in there in 2 layers. No axles, either? Elden Gatwood -----Original Message----- From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:25 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor
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Gatwood, Elden J SAD
It's hard to tell, but my Uncle owned an Oldsmobile that had body two-tone
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paint like the one on top. I find it interesting that they are clearly painted. Given the chance to mess the paint up, during final assembly, one has to wonder why... Elden Gatwood
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of water.kresse@... Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:07 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! Guys, After WW2 the Auto Industry jobbed out a lot of the Station Wagon bodies to small contractors who had built auto-type assemblies for the war efforts. Ionia Mfg (Ionia, Michigan) produced extended Jeep bodies, truck box sub-assemblies with seats and canvass, etc. They then produced Buick Stn Wagon bodies that were shipped on their body trucks to Buick City in Flint, Michigan, to be dropped on running frame assemblies to then have the bolt-on front end sheet metal and bumpers added. I believe they produced other GM "Woody" Stn Wagon bodies also. Fisher Body Chevy produced their own wagon bodies. Great shot! Does anyone recognize the body style? Al Kresse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@... <mailto:timboconnor%40comcast.net> > To: STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2010 2:25:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [STMFC] so that's how they did it! A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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ken_olson54022 <kwolson@...>
Great shot! Does anyone recognize the body style?My best guess is '57 Pontiac. It looks as if the chrome strips that cover the paint breaks may not be applied yet. Ken Olson
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barryb2again <Barrybennetttoo@...>
From the published photos I have they are 1957 Pontiac 'Chieftain Safari' station wagon bodies.
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Barry Bennett
--- In STMFC@..., "ken_olson54022" <kwolson@...> wrote:
Great shot! Does anyone recognize the body style?My best guess is '57 Pontiac.
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Dave Nelson
FWIW, I recall reading a negative complaint about the seller... buyer was
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P-O'd that what he received was a copy-neg of a .jpg image. I dunno if it was or wasn't(I'm not even sure how one might make a neg from a .jpg) but I do recall the complaint. Dave Nelson
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A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do not have their wheels mounted! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250644589551 Tim O'Connor ------------------------------------
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No one has commented on the freight car -- it matches the Proto 2000
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50' double door car except for the Viking Roof. :-) Tim
A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars do
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Richard Hendrickson
On Jun 7, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
A loaded Nickel Plate 50' auto box car -- notice the cars doAs others have speculated, those were bodies only en route from the body manufacturer to an assembly plant. Note that the NKP car has an auto parts loading symbol on the door, NOT an auto loader symbol. Also, as you noted in a later post, that NKP car was one of the series modeled by Life-Like but with the wrong roof. At the time, L- L had several photos of the cars but none that showed the Viking roof. It wasn't until the models went on sale that a photo revealing the Viking roof turned up. Fortunately, Tom Madden molded a bunch of excellent 50' Viking roofs, so I got one and converted my L-L model. Richard Hendrickson
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