[Gould Railroad Standard Wooden Cabooses


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Mike Carson wrote:
Mullet River Models (MRM) has recently released a Western Pacific Caboose, that is stipulated to be a Gould Standard Wooden Caboose. A series of Google searches lends credence to the stipulation. Other Gould system railroads were the Missouri Pacific, the Wabash, the Denver & Rio Grande, the Western Pacific & subsidiary roads.
I've been told, though I'm no Gould Road expert, that there was no STANDARD Gould caboose, though several of the roads had very similar ones. Likely someone on this list knows more ( . . . much more! <g>)

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Charlie Vlk
 

The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I am aware of.
St. Charles car company built cars for the CB&Q, MP, CM, and others that were pretty much alike (like the Morrison-International "Wide Vision" cars are similar) but not identical.
The so-called "USRA" wood caboose may be close but I haven't seen any study on the pedigree of that family to say if it qualifies as a "standard", even the steel version has about as many variations as the ATSF "1900" clones (WAB, Alton, CRR, etc..).
Charlie Vlk

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Mike Carson wrote:
> Mullet River Models (MRM) has recently released a Western Pacific
> Caboose, that is stipulated to be a Gould Standard Wooden Caboose.
> A series of Google searches lends credence to the stipulation.
> Other Gould system railroads were the Missouri Pacific, the Wabash,
> the Denver & Rio Grande, the Western Pacific & subsidiary roads.

I've been told, though I'm no Gould Road expert, that there was
no STANDARD Gould caboose, though several of the roads had very
similar ones. Likely someone on this list knows more ( . . . much
more! <g>)

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Charlie Vlk wrote:
The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I am aware of.
As you might guess, Charlie, it was a Class CA car on both SP and UP, since it was an Associated Lines standard.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Tim O'Connor
 

The Van Sweringen roads didn't share any caboose designs?

At 6/21/2010 06:49 PM Monday, you wrote:
The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I am aware of.
St. Charles car company built cars for the CB&Q, MP, CM, and others that were pretty much alike (like the Morrison-International "Wide Vision" cars are similar) but not identical.
The so-called "USRA" wood caboose may be close but I haven't seen any study on the pedigree of that family to say if it qualifies as a "standard", even the steel version has about as many variations as the ATSF "1900" clones (WAB, Alton, CRR, etc..).
Charlie Vlk


Charlie Vlk
 

The Magor design caboose that Atlas offers in HO and N is a mini-standard (PM, C&EI, C&O, MP) but AFAIK the PM, C&O and NKP didn't order any cars as a Van Sweringen "standard".
Morrison had a modular design steel caboose but the length, window arrangement, cupola/bay window/none, etc.. could be cusomized so that no two looked alike.... EJ&E and BRC are examples of how different they could look. Kato's "Shorty" caboose in N (Cambria & Indiana prototype was released; BRC transfer style was planned as was a bay window (LI) version but they were not).
Charlie Vlk

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The Van Sweringen roads didn't share any caboose designs?

At 6/21/2010 06:49 PM Monday, you wrote:
>The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I am aware of.
>St. Charles car company built cars for the CB&Q, MP, CM, and others that were pretty much alike (like the Morrison-International "Wide Vision" cars are similar) but not identical.
>The so-called "USRA" wood caboose may be close but I haven't seen any study on the pedigree of that family to say if it qualifies as a "standard", even the steel version has about as many variations as the ATSF "1900" clones (WAB, Alton, CRR, etc..).
>Charlie Vlk


Charlie Vlk
 

Tony-
I thought it was a CA on the SP as well, but only looked at the UP info in the near past so wasn't totally sure.
Thanks,
Charlie


Charlie Vlk wrote:
> The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I
> am aware of.

As you might guess, Charlie, it was a Class CA car on both SP and
UP, since it was an Associated Lines standard.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


jerryglow2
 

MP's Magors and clones vary considerably in the end platform detail and steps as can be seen in my modified one:
http://home.comcast.net/~jerryglow/more/Magor.html

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "cvlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:

The Magor design caboose that Atlas offers in HO and N is a mini-standard (PM, C&EI, C&O, MP) but AFAIK the PM, C&O and NKP didn't order any cars as a Van Sweringen "standard".
Morrison had a modular design steel caboose but the length, window arrangement, cupola/bay window/none, etc.. could be cusomized so that no two looked alike.... EJ&E and BRC are examples of how different they could look. Kato's "Shorty" caboose in N (Cambria & Indiana prototype was released; BRC transfer style was planned as was a bay window (LI) version but they were not).
Charlie Vlk

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The Van Sweringen roads didn't share any caboose designs?

At 6/21/2010 06:49 PM Monday, you wrote:
>The "Harriman" (UP CA, SP???) is the only "standard" wood caboose I am aware of.
>St. Charles car company built cars for the CB&Q, MP, CM, and others that were pretty much alike (like the Morrison-International "Wide Vision" cars are similar) but not identical.
>The so-called "USRA" wood caboose may be close but I haven't seen any study on the pedigree of that family to say if it qualifies as a "standard", even the steel version has about as many variations as the ATSF "1900" clones (WAB, Alton, CRR, etc..).
>Charlie Vlk





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