----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:10 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: NYC wreck (was Black Car Cement on roofs)



You're right Tom, it is a NYC car, as this view shows part of
the NYC reporting marks behind the man's right shoulder
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-elywrk-erc.jpg

Verrrrryyy interesting.... :-) Now the mystery is, why does a car
with 4/4 dreadnaught ends have wood running boards, since they were
outlawed for new car construction before anyone began using 4/4 IDE
ends??

Now, 8xxxx (5-digit box cars) tended to be 40' rebuilds of older cars.
Looking at your photo, the number of roof panels is consistent with a
50' box car http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-elywrk-drc.jpg

This may be it: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-elywrk-irc.jpg

There was Lot 742-B, 50' single door box cars built in 1946, e.g. NYC 80868
(Railway Age Jan 1947). These cars were specially equipped, which may account
for the horizontal rows of rivets shown in the photo.

Still, this does not settle the mystery of wood running boards and a modern IDE.

I imagine that steam loco with elephant ears was a Niagara (4-8-4) or
a Mohawk (4-8-2).

How would you have liked to watch this whole wreck from the vantage of
that crossing guard's tower? :-)

Tim O'Connor

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>There are 14 pictures in that wreck sequence. It was obviously on the NYC,
>and in the last photo of the sequence an in-service NYC steam engine (with
>elephant ears - I'm not familiar enough with NYC steam te say what it is)
>passes by. In the <-frc.jpg> portion of the link below, just substitute
>letters "a" through "n" for the "f" to see the rest of the photos. Some
>really interesting stuff there.
>
>Photo "d" is of the A end of the subject car. It's fairly low resolution, but
>by processing the image I can make out what looks like the letters N and Y above
>the number 80735. It also appears to have 4/4 IDE ends. Was there an NYC 80735???
>
>Tom Madden
>