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Bob Kutella
--- In STMFC@..., "trolleycar68" <68trolley@...> wrote:
Stay tuned, I may come begging here yet again. A friend (and member here) scanned the insert in the set of Champ decals that I have ordered. The immediate question is do any of you know what color the TICHY flat car kits were painted for this road? The info on the decal sheet suggests black or iron oxide, but not which one. I could start painting now while waiting for the mail. The sheet also suggests a number of 70229; do any of you know if this is a correct number or the series the cars may have had? The kit in question is sold by TICHY as their Kit 4021 and is said to be a 40' fifty ton flat car and has straight side sills, not fishbelly. The claim is that it was built by AC&F in 1928 for the NC&StL. At this point it is obvious to me not to assume anything or to trust to how things might be described by someone selling that item. The current example is the set of decals from Portland Car & Foundry cataloged as a GN set FOR THIS KIT, when I now find out the GN never had any such cars, and the decal sheet lettering is sized and arranged that it CANNOT be applied to the car. I do not want to be a pest tying up the message board here so if this is too detailed a question or inappropriate please send an e mail response. Thanks again Bob Kutella |
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Mitchell Mercante
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NC&StL #70229, Class FM-9, was built by ACF in July 1926. This car was the prototype for the Gould pattern. It used Dahlman trucks and had straight sidesills with a fish belly centersill. I believe the cars were first painted black but sometime later were painted brown. I'm sure others can supply the color changeover dates. The brown (iron oxide) was the newer paint scheme. Additional information/photos are in the 1931 Car Builders Cyc. or reprinted in the Train Shed Cyc. No. 46. Hope this helps. Regards, Mitch Mercante --- On Mon, 9/13/10, trolleycar68 <68trolley@...> wrote:
From: trolleycar68 <68trolley@...> Subject: [STMFC] NC&StL (was G N) Flat Cars To: STMFC@... Date: Monday, September 13, 2010, 9:21 AM --- In STMFC@..., "trolleycar68" <68trolley@...> wrote: Stay tuned, I may come begging here yet again. A friend (and member here) scanned the insert in the set of Champ decals that I have ordered. The immediate question is do any of you know what color the TICHY flat car kits were painted for this road? The info on the decal sheet suggests black or iron oxide, but not which one. I could start painting now while waiting for the mail. The sheet also suggests a number of 70229; do any of you know if this is a correct number or the series the cars may have had? The kit in question is sold by TICHY as their Kit 4021 and is said to be a 40' fifty ton flat car and has straight side sills, not fishbelly. The claim is that it was built by AC&F in 1928 for the NC&StL. At this point it is obvious to me not to assume anything or to trust to how things might be described by someone selling that item. The current example is the set of decals from Portland Car & Foundry cataloged as a GN set FOR THIS KIT, when I now find out the GN never had any such cars, and the decal sheet lettering is sized and arranged that it CANNOT be applied to the car. I do not want to be a pest tying up the message board here so if this is too detailed a question or inappropriate please send an e mail response. Thanks again Bob Kutella ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Bob
When you originally asked about GN flat cars, I assumed that you meant the RED CABOOSE "USRA" flat cars, not the TICHY flat cars. My mistake. The CHAMP decal set HC-646 was produced especially for the GOULD (TICHY) flat cars and includes NC&StL, L&N, T&P, MKT, GN, CP, WP and BAR -- but strangely, not SSW, which definitely had such cars. Anyway, I've only seen evidence of the NC&StL, T&P, SSW, and CP flat cars, even though this set was supposed to be highly accurate. GN had some longer straight side sill flat cars, but I've never seen a photo of one the size of the TICHY flat. The HC-646 contains a variety of road name lettering for GN, so it may be good for other (and larger) GN flats than the TICHY or RED CABOOSE kits. Tim O'Connor |
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