Great Northern flat car


goldrod_1 <goldrod_1@...>
 

At the following URL a photo of two Great Northern flat cars is shown. I know the photo was taken in 1969 nine years after this groups cut-off date but the two cars look to be 40' flats from sometime earlier than 1960. The two cars look as if they are being used as single car, notice the name "Great Northern" is only on the closest car and a car number is on the second car. My question is: Were these cars used this way before the 1960's? And what were they used for? Thanks for any help.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/gn/gn64531ajs.jpg
Michael Bishop


Larry Wolohon
 

Michael,



Per my copy of GN Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment by David Hickox, this is a single car as you noted made of 2 1929 Siems Stemble Co. flat cars.

They were combined in 1966 to haul farm implements as an articulated car rather than order or build longer flat cars.



So this is outside the scope of STMFC partly at least.



Larry W.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:30:54 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Great Northern flat car

 




At the following URL a photo of two Great Northern flat cars is shown. I know the photo was taken in 1969 nine years after this groups cut-off date but the two cars look to be 40' flats from sometime earlier than 1960. The two cars look as if they are being used as single car, notice the name "Great Northern" is only on the closest car and a car number is on the second car. My question is: Were these cars used this way before the 1960's? And what were they used for? Thanks for any help.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/gn/gn64531ajs.jpg
Michael Bishop


Tim O'Connor
 

Michael

They were marketed as 89'2" flat cars equipped for farm machinery loading.
Railroad rates for "loose cars" are almost always based on the size of the
car (and union work rules were often based on "cars") so by operating
"articulated" pairs of cars the GN could offer better rates than by simply
operating them as two cars. There were 63 of these "cars" on the roster in
1972. Other car types operated this way included 70 ton airslides.

I don't think that this existed before 1961, so it's after the STMFC era.

Tim O'Connor

At 9/28/2010 09:30 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
At the following URL a photo of two Great Northern flat cars is shown. I know the photo was taken in 1969 nine years after this groups cut-off date but the two cars look to be 40' flats from sometime earlier than 1960. The two cars look as if they are being used as single car, notice the name "Great Northern" is only on the closest car and a car number is on the second car. My question is: Were these cars used this way before the 1960's? And what were they used for? Thanks for any help.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/gn/gn64531ajs.jpg
Michael Bishop


Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

Michael

The CB&Q took a similar route with 146 FM-11 and FM-11A 45' flats that it had built in 1928-1930 at Galesburg. It coupled them in pairs, renumbered them to 88000-88072 A/B, reclassed them as FM-11B and used them for tractor loading, but not until 1962.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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Michael

They were marketed as 89'2" flat cars equipped for farm machinery loading.
Railroad rates for "loose cars" are almost always based on the size of the
car (and union work rules were often based on "cars") so by operating
"articulated" pairs of cars the GN could offer better rates than by simply
operating them as two cars. There were 63 of these "cars" on the roster in
1972. Other car types operated this way included 70 ton airslides.

I don't think that this existed before 1961, so it's after the STMFC era.

Tim O'Connor