PRR standard red oxide paint and GLa trucks


Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

I'm building a few P-Company cars and would like suggestions as to the best model paint match for them.

Also, would GLa hoppers have been fitted with Crown trucks? And did TKM ever carry an article on the GLa cars?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.


Bruce Smith
 

Steve,

Paint - era? (pre WWI, post WWII...?), cars?

Trucks - no "crown" trucks on GLa hoppers... after all, that's a 70 ton
truck and a 50 ton hopper <G>. As built, the cars rode on arch bar
trucks. Later, most used the ubiquitous PRR 2D-F8 truck. I don't think
TKM has covered GLa cars yet.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL

"Steve Lucas" <stevelucas3@...> 10/24/10 4:11 PM >>>
I'm building a few P-Company cars and would like suggestions as to the
best model paint match for them.

Also, would GLa hoppers have been fitted with Crown trucks? And did TKM
ever carry an article on the GLa cars?

Thanks in advance,

Steve Lucas.



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Benjamin Hom
 

Steve Lucas asked:
"I'm building a few P-Company cars and would like suggestions as to the
best model paint match for them."

It depends on when you're modeling. For cars painted before 1945, I prefer Polly Scale Zinc Chromate Primer; for cars painted after WWII, PollyScale Special Oxide Red.


"Also, would GLa hoppers have been fitted with Crown trucks?"

Yes, according to Tracing No. C422800-E, but of the 50-ton variety (PRR Class 2D-F1). These have a 4 in shorter wheelbase than the 70-ton trucks available in HO scale from Bowser and Walker Model Services.
http://prr.railfan.net/trucks/C422800-E.pdf
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=2d-f2.gif&sel=ftk&sz=sm&fr=
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=2f-f1.gif&sel=ftk&sz=sm&fr=


"And did TKM ever carry an article on the GLa cars?"

No. Your best bets for the time beinng is the GLA chapter in Teichmoeller book or the corresponding article in the April 1993 issue of Model Railroading, and Richard Burg's article in the February 2002 issue of Railmodel Journal. Additionally, there are prototype photos in Jim Hunter's classic Athearn twin kitbash in the August 1986 issue of RMC.


Ben Hom


Steve Lucas <stevelucas3@...>
 

Bruce and Ben--

Thanks for the quick and comprehensive info, gentlemen!

I have a Bowser H21, a Bowser GLa, and a Westerfield GLa to build. The Westerfield GLa is by far the nicest work of the lot. I've a bit of work on my hands to carve off the cast-on grabs on the Bowser GLa, the H21 already having had this work done. In future, I'll buy the Westerfield cars over the Bowsers if I want freestanding grabs.

I don't have the RMJ nor the Tiechmoeller book you've cited. But looking at that photo of GLa 748601 on page 64 of the August, 1986 RMC, I have to model this car! A little beat up, with patched-on rivet strips at the body tie bar locations. And dinged up, too.

I'll go with the Bowser Crown trucks on the H21, and try to get the Red Caboose PRR cast steel sideframe trucks for the GLa cars.

I'm modelling October, 1956, so either paint you've specified will work, depending on the age of the paint job on the car.

One more question--the bracket supporting the AB brake reservoir in the RMC photo of 748601--is that a stamping that is rivetted to the outside of the car side above the towing staple?

Thanks again,

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...> wrote:



Steve Lucas asked:
"I'm building a few P-Company cars and would like suggestions as to the
best model paint match for them."

It depends on when you're modeling. For cars painted before 1945, I prefer Polly Scale Zinc Chromate Primer; for cars painted after WWII, PollyScale Special Oxide Red.


"Also, would GLa hoppers have been fitted with Crown trucks?"

Yes, according to Tracing No. C422800-E, but of the 50-ton variety (PRR Class 2D-F1). These have a 4 in shorter wheelbase than the 70-ton trucks available in HO scale from Bowser and Walker Model Services.
http://prr.railfan.net/trucks/C422800-E.pdf
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=2d-f2.gif&sel=ftk&sz=sm&fr=
http://prr.railfan.net/diagrams/PRRdiagrams.html?diag=2f-f1.gif&sel=ftk&sz=sm&fr=


"And did TKM ever carry an article on the GLa cars?"

No. Your best bets for the time beinng is the GLA chapter in Teichmoeller book or the corresponding article in the April 1993 issue of Model Railroading, and Richard Burg's article in the February 2002 issue of Railmodel Journal. Additionally, there are prototype photos in Jim Hunter's classic Athearn twin kitbash in the August 1986 issue of RMC.


Ben Hom