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Chateau Martin box car
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Some people have shown interest in the cars of this owner here.
This is the first one I've seen of CMWX 1001 (a sliding door car) in full billboard regalia. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140471931176 Tim O'Connor
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S hed <shed999@...>
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before regarding Chateau Martin cars before but here is a webpage with good information on their cars:
http://coastdaylight.com/chatmart/cmwx_roster_1.html - Steve Hedlund To: STMFC@... From: timboconnor@... Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 01:48:33 -0400 Subject: [STMFC] Chateau Martin box car Some people have shown interest in the cars of this owner here. This is the first one I've seen of CMWX 1001 (a sliding door car) in full billboard regalia. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140471931176 Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Schuyler Larrabee
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From the same page Tim listed this morning . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140474 8101416 Are those really wood sides on this car? Strange combination if so, with clearly steel above/below doors, and behind the ladder, and along the edge of the frame . . . Is this a rebuild of some kind? SGL From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:49 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Chateau Martin box car Some people have shown interest in the cars of this owner here. This is the first one I've seen of CMWX 1001 (a sliding door car) in full billboard regalia. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140471 931176 Tim O'Connor ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16180) http://www.pctools.com <http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16180) http://www.pctools.com/ =======
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According to RPI, it is a 1944 AAR box
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Rich Christie
--- On Sun, 11/7/10, Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
From: Schuyler Larrabee <schuyler.larrabee@...> Subject: RE: [STMFC] Chateau Martin box car To: STMFC@... Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 8:47 AM 140474810416 From the same page Tim listed this morning . . . http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140474 8101416 Are those really wood sides on this car? Strange combination if so, with clearly steel above/below doors, and behind the ladder, and along the edge of the frame . . . Is this a rebuild of some kind? SGL From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:49 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Chateau Martin box car Some people have shown interest in the cars of this owner here. This is the first one I've seen of CMWX 1001 (a sliding door car) in full billboard regalia. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHATEAU-MARTIN-40ft-REEFER-BOXCAR-RAILROAD-SLIDE-/140471 931176 Tim O'Connor ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16180) http://www.pctools.com <http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16180) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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According to RPI, it is a 1944 AAR box I'm not sure what that means exactly. It has R+3/4 ends and 5/6/6 improved Youngstown doors, and welded sides. But -- I can't find any Chateau Martin listings in any of my Equipment Registers (from 1940 to 1988) -- what gives? Surely CMWX is a registered reporting mark? Is CMWX listed another another name? Tim O'Connor
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
CMWX was listed under Commodities Car Co., Ltd. It was their only mark in 1961. Check under "AAR List of Assigned Reporting Marks of Private Car Companies" in the back.
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From: Tim O'Connor But -- I can't find any Chateau Martin listings in any of my Equipment Registers (from 1940 to 1988) -- what gives? Surely CMWX is a registered reporting mark? Is CMWX listed another another name?
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Kurt
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Thanks! CMWX 1001-1009 appear in the ORER after Jan 1959 but before July 1963. Tim O'Connor
At 11/8/2010 06:01 PM Monday, you wrote:
CMWX was listed under Commodities Car Co., Ltd. It was their only mark in
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al_brown03
The 1/43 ORER lists (also under Commodities Car Co.) CMWX 101-105, MCB class TL (ICC 103), 6000 gallons. These are tank cars with linings to prevent either corrosion by, or contamination of, the lading. Cars 101 and 105 (but not 102-104) are still listed in the 1/53 ORER, along with:
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CMWX 106, 108-112, 114, 117-125, and 130-134 (21 cars): AAR designation BMT, 6000 gallons. "BMT: A house car contructed and equipped for passenger train service used for transportation of liquids. Equipped with one or more insulated tanks and with or without pumps and compressor. Not equipped with means of refrigeration." Sounds like they changed over from conventional-looking tank cars, to house-type cars. These are different car numbers from those Tim and Kurt list: did they replace the fleet again before '59, or was there a re-numbering? CMWX is the only listing for Commodities Car in either ORER. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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No Al, we were just talking about CMWX 1001, which looks like a
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conventional box car. But most of the older cars that appear in the earlier ORERs remained in service into the 1960's. I haven't checked in detail to see specifically which cars disappeared by 1959. Tim O'
Sounds like they changed over from conventional-looking tank cars, to house-type cars. These are different car numbers from those Tim and Kurt list: did they replace the fleet again before '59, or was there a re-numbering?
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Charlie Vlk
Since my Westerfield ORER collection brackets the dates the 1001-1009 appear, is there any indication that the 1002-1009 were the same type boxcar as the 1001 (which had full Charteau Martin paint and patch job CMWX)?
A manufacturer is interested in doing these cars in N Scale and wants to know what the cars looked like beyond the two schemes for the 1001. Charlie Vlk Railroad Model Resources
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Charlie,
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The 1003, 1005, 1006, 1008 were all ex-GPEX General American-Pfaulder milk tank cars. I wouldn't be surprised if 1002-1009 were all this type. I think 1001 was unique. Also I think the "patch job" version of 1001 was its originally second hand appearance, until it was fully repainted for Chateau Martin. So it was short lived in that scheme (less than 2 years?). The scan I have of GPEX 1003 also is a "patch job" where the milk company lettering is painted out. Tim O'Connor
At 11/9/2010 02:32 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
Since my Westerfield ORER collection brackets the dates the 1001-1009 appear, is there any indication that the 1002-1009 were the same type boxcar as the 1001 (which had full Charteau Martin paint and patch job CMWX)?
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Charlie Vlk
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It looks like we're back to the 1001 being a unique car. The patch job was the first paint scheme; full paint was later. Charlie
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From: Tim O'Connor To: STMFC@... Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Chateau Martin box car Charlie, The 1003, 1005, 1006, 1008 were all ex-GPEX General American-Pfaulder milk tank cars. I wouldn't be surprised if 1002-1009 were all this type. I think 1001 was unique. Also I think the "patch job" version of 1001 was its originally second hand appearance, until it was fully repainted for Chateau Martin. So it was short lived in that scheme (less than 2 years?). The scan I have of GPEX 1003 also is a "patch job" where the milk company lettering is painted out. Tim O'Connor At 11/9/2010 02:32 PM Tuesday, you wrote: >Since my Westerfield ORER collection brackets the dates the 1001-1009 appear, is there any indication that the 1002-1009 were the same type boxcar as the 1001 (which had full Charteau Martin paint and patch job CMWX)? > >A manufacturer is interested in doing these cars in N Scale and wants to know what the cars looked like beyond the two schemes for the 1001. > >Charlie Vlk >Railroad Model Resources
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