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Klasing brake wheel
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Unusual to see this on a new freight car in 1959
http://www.pullman-museum.org/main/pf2010.03.23b.jpg Tim O'Connor |
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Tim,
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Klasing is still around, believe someone bought them out recently. Nick Molo has modern Klasing brake sets. Rich Christie --- On Sat, 11/13/10, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> Subject: [STMFC] Klasing brake wheel To: STMFC@... Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 1:46 PM Unusual to see this on a new freight car in 1959 http://www.pullman-museum.org/main/pf2010.03.23b.jpg Tim O'Connor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Klasing was sold to New York Air Brake. All production facilities and recent records have been removed from Joliet.
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Older records went to the dump. I would have given my left nut for a chance to haul them away or at least have a look. This is the second time Klasing has disposed of records in such a manner but Wayne Klasing was kind enough to notify me after the fact both times. And he knew of my interest in hand brakes. Gene Green --- In STMFC@..., Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:
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Gene,
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Do you have info (especially diagrams or advertisements) on the Klasing lever hand brakes. They show up on Pere Marquette cars with vertical shafts from the 1920s. Al Kresse ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:47:27 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Klasing brake wheel Klasing was sold to New York Air Brake. All production facilities and recent records have been removed from Joliet. Older records went to the dump. I would have given my left nut for a chance to haul them away or at least have a look. This is the second time Klasing has disposed of records in such a manner but Wayne Klasing was kind enough to notify me after the fact both times. And he knew of my interest in hand brakes. Gene Green --- In STMFC@..., Rich C <rhcdmc@...> wrote:
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Al,
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Wayne was reluctant to send his old blueprints out for copying so all I got were some drawings copied on the copy machine in "patches." They could be pieced together but . . . Wayne donated the photos and maybe some other material to the Mercantile Library at the University of Missouri St. Louis (I think I have the name correct). I have yet to visit to see what they received but they copies, photos, etc. are sooooooooo expensive. I don't know if any of the older blueprints went to New York Air Brake but at least some would have. There are lawsuits, you know. I need to contact New York Air Brake and see what they can offer. Contact me off list. I will certainly help all I can. Gene Green --- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote:
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RichKlasing is still around ... Nick Molo has modern Klasing brake sets ... Nick makes two modern Klasing brake housings, but his brake wheels are all alike -- the generic stamped design that has been in use since the 1950's (if not earlier). http://www.molocotrains.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_11.jpg The brake WHEEL in the PS photo is a cast design and hasn't been made for 40+ years. In fact until I saw that photo I'd thought they stopped making it 60 years ago. Tim O'Connor |
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
The material accumulated so far indicates the following:
The first stamped metal hand wheel was introduced by Universal in 1948 on the 5700-6232 hand brake. The earliest Klasing drawing for a stamped hand wheel is drawing D-1208-A dated July 8, 1959 for a 22 inch diameter hand wheel 1153 (version 1). The earliest Equipco drawing for a stamped hand wheel is drawing 709C-03900 dated September 17, 1956 for a 22 inch diameter hand wheel 390. The earliest Miner drawing for a stamped hand wheel is drawing 22389 dated December 3, 1958 for a 22 inch diameter hand wheel D-3465. Ajax introduced a "generic" stamped hand wheel about 1958. As I said earlier, I have yet to pin that down any better. Universal, which owns Ajax, is not interested in talking to me. Everyone on this list is familiar with the Ajax cast hand wheel with its "nubbins" in the hand holes. This hand wheel was introduced in 1936 or 1937 and had 8 spokes radiating out from the center. An earlier version of that wheel only had 4 spokes on the inner ring. An interim Ajax hand wheel - between the one we all recognize and the "generic" stamped metal one - was a stamped one that retained those "nubbins" in the hand holes. I have one in my collection. This hand wheel must have been used only briefly. I have never seen one on a car or in a photo of a freight car. Gene Green |
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