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SP Conductor's book 1938-39
sp1930s
Dear List,
I recently acquired a SP Freight Conductor's Train Book from Jack Bowden and want to share it. The conductor's name could not be read from the cover, the location is on the S.P.'s Modoc Line mostly between Alturas and Wendel during 1938 and 1939. This is the line connecting S.P.'s Oregon operations to the Overland route at Fernley Nevada. I scanned each page and put them in the photo section at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/650677275/pic/list Enjoy Larry Castle - Seattle
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al_brown03
Neat stuff! Thanks for sharing.
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At a quick glance: lots of home-road cars (SP/T&NO). Occasional eastern cars (DL&W/Erie as well as Penna/NYC/subsidiaries). The only two SAL cars I noticed were a 15000-series box ('24 ARA SS, class B-5) and SAL 301, which is I have no idea what. Not familiar with that number series and can't read the car type, which however is *not* "B". Three-digit numbers normally belonged to passenger cars. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Wendye Ware
This is very generous of you Larry. Thank you very much!
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Larry Ostresh Laramie, Wyoming
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Clark Propst
Thanks for taking the time to scan that conductor's book. I'm starting a new presentation and need information from such records.
Thanks again, Clark Propst
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thomas christensen
Al,
SAL 301 is a 1911 built 70' baggage car. Tom Christensen  The only two SAL cars I noticed were a 15000-series box ('24 ARA SS, class B-5) and SAL 301, which is I have no idea what. Not familiar with that number series and can't read the car type, which however is *not* "B". Three-digit numbers normally belonged to passenger cars. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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sp1930s
Al,
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It looks like SAL 301 is listed as BAG, could it be a baggage car? Be nice to throw one into one of my 1930s SP Oregon freights. To all who thanked me on and off line you are more then welcome. This is the first book of this type I have ever found and it is so interesting it had to be shared in a way others could use it also. Larry Castle - Seattle
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al_brown03
It sure is a baggage car: see Tom Christensen's post. But, what in the world was it doing there?
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Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Benjamin Hom
Al Brown wrote:
"[SAL 301] sure is a baggage car: see Tom Christensen's post. But, what in the world was it doing there?" Most likely an empty baggage car deadheading home in a freight train; this wasn't an everyday occurrence, but it did happen from time to time, and it looks like this conductor's book documents this occurrence. Ben Hom
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SUVCWORR@...
Baggage cars were used to transport newspapers, magazines, catalogs, and other specialized time sensitive loads. It was less expensive to ship by rail in bulk to distributed mailing points than to send by mail from one location. Not sure this counts as freight. May belong on the passenger car list.
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Rich Orr
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From: al_brown03 <abrown@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 1:14 pm Subject: [STMFC] Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39 It sure is a baggage car: see Tom Christensen's post. But, what in the world was it doing there? Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., "sp1930s" <sp1930s@...> wrote: Al, It looks like SAL 301 is listed as BAG, could it be a baggage car? Be nice tothrow one into one of my 1930s SP Oregon freights. To all who thanked me on and off line you are more then welcome. This is thefirst book of this type I have ever found and it is so interesting it had to be shared in a way others could use it also. Larry Castle - Seattle --- In STMFC@..., "al_brown03" <abrown@> wrote: Neat stuff! Thanks for sharing. (DL&W/Erie as well as Penna/NYC/subsidiaries). The only two SAL cars I noticedAt a quick glance: lots of home-road cars (SP/T&NO). Occasional eastern cars were a 15000-series box ('24 ARA SS, class B-5) and SAL 301, which is I have no idea what. Not familiar with that number series and can't read the car type, which however is *not* "B". Three-digit numbers normally belonged to passenger cars. Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@..., "sp1930s" <sp1930s@> wrote: Dear List, and want to share it. The conductor's name could not be read from the cover, theI recently acquired a SP Freight Conductor's Train Book from Jack Bowden location is on the S.P.'s Modoc Line mostly between Alturas and Wendel during 1938 and 1939. This is the line connecting S.P.'s Oregon operations to the Overland route at Fernley Nevada. I scanned each page and put them in the photo section at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/photos/album/650677275/pic/list Enjoy Larry Castle - Seattle ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/join (Yahoo! ID required) STMFC-digest@... STMFC-fullfeatured@... STMFC-unsubscribe@... http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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mike brock <brockm@...>
Al, I can't speak to 1938-9 right now, but when I prepared for my clinic and article [ will it ever appear? ] on the C&NW/UP/SP Fast Mail in 1953 I discovered that a rather significant number of foreign cars...baggage, express, and frt...operated on this train. Cars might be carrying anything from dead bodies to newspapers. One interesting aspect is that it was common for a car to travel from one large eastern city...like NYC...to San Francisco without opening the car [ hopefully one with newspapers ].
I'll take a look and see what cars from southern locations might be traveling on the Overland Route. Mike Brock
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Mike
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What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any record of that car on the Overland route? Tim O'Connor
At 12/1/2010 08:13 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
Al, I can't speak to 1938-9 right now, but when I prepared for my clinic and
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Tim O'Connor wrote:
What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any record of that car on the Overland route?Solving that mystery would require a security clearance, Tim <g>. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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mike brock <brockm@...>
Tim O'Connor asks
What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forthIn what train? Mike Brock
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yer the expert buddy... you tell me! (prolly not the COLA or COSF)
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What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forthIn what train?
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SUVCWORR@...
The ACL/SAL historical society had NKP products produce the 666 in 2008. According to the flyer announcing the car it was routed ACL to L&N to CB&Q.
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Rich Orr
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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 12:04 am Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39 yer the expert buddy... you tell me! (prolly not the COLA or COSF) What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any record of that car on the Overland route? In what train? Mike Brock ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/join (Yahoo! ID required) STMFC-digest@... STMFC-fullfeatured@... STMFC-unsubscribe@... http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ =
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A. Premo <armprem2@...>
Not unusual at all.Very common in the Northeast.Armand Premo
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From: mike brock To: STMFC@... Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: SP Conductor's book 1938-39 Al, I can't speak to 1938-9 right now, but when I prepared for my clinic and article [ will it ever appear? ] on the C&NW/UP/SP Fast Mail in 1953 I discovered that a rather significant number of foreign cars...baggage, express, and frt...operated on this train. Cars might be carrying anything from dead bodies to newspapers. One interesting aspect is that it was common for a car to travel from one large eastern city...like NYC...to San Francisco without opening the car [ hopefully one with newspapers ]. I'll take a look and see what cars from southern locations might be traveling on the Overland Route. Mike Brock ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2804 - Release Date: 04/11/10 06:32:00 ____________________________________________________________ Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4cf7ce56c2ea3491595st03duc
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Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
What year? What else was in the train?
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KL
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Tim O'Connor wrote: What about that ACL combine #666, travelling mysteriously back and forth between the Rocky Flats and the Savannah River nuclear facilities... Any record of that car on the Overland route?
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