At 02:10 AM 1/13/2011 -0500, you wrote:

I have never seen a 1960's or later photo of any of the 15000-15999 cars.

My 1967 ORER lists only 7 cars in that range listed under the N&W numbers 21500-21599. My 1974 ORER shows... drum roll... one car.

Oh well, maybe I will just build it as a steam era car. Plenty more NKP 40' box cars to do that did last well into the 70s.

The book does say 8 cars remained in NKP marks until 1979, but not sure how to go about finding them in the ORER. Or rather, I forgot. I know I was looking up pre-merger cars before... airslides, PS-2 4000s, and other covered hoppers.

Interesting that the book photo really doesn't look like a Viking roof - at least not the same type as the DPH kit comes with. But above it are the 13200-13499 class of P-S built cars, and the car in that photo definitely has a Viking roof.

Andy

Andy Harman wrote:

My 1967 ORER lists only 7 cars in that range . . .

Stop it. This list has a 1960 horizon.

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:21:32 -0800, Anthony Thompson wrote

Andy Harman wrote:

My 1967 ORER lists only 7 cars in that range . . .

Stop it. This list has a 1960 horizon.

I guess I'm out of luck then. The MFCL isn't interested in anything built before 1960.
So the thousands of freight cars built before, but in service after, apparently have no
place.

Sorry to have bothered you.

Andy

Andy Harman wrote:

I guess I'm out of luck then. The MFCL isn't interested in anything built before 1960. So the thousands of freight cars built before, but in service after, apparently have no place.

Nothing wrong with identifying "end of service" beyond 1960, but this was entering into a detailed description of service after 1960. You're right that neither list is enthused about considerable extensions beyond its boundary.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:44:17 -0800, Anthony Thompson wrote

Nothing wrong with identifying "end of service" beyond 1960,
but this was entering into a detailed description of service after
1960. You're right that neither list is enthused about considerable
extensions beyond its boundary.

Then I would assume that the discussion of roof replacement and other modifications are
also out of bounds. It sounds like I should be looking for a Nickel Plate list,
although they probably will get out the wooden cross if I mention N&W.

Andy

Andy Harman wrote:
"I guess I'm out of luck then. The MFCL isn't interested in anything built
before
1960.  So the thousands of freight cars built before, but in service after,
apparently
have no place."

We can move this thread to a related list, bbfcl:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/bbfcl/

Group Description:
"Excuse the whimsical title, but this list is for discussion of railroad freight
cars built and/or operated in roughly the post World War II baby boom years. The
era of greatest interest for this mailing list spans the period from 1954 -- the
start of the AB brake era and when new car designs such as covered hoppers and
mechanical refrigerator cars began to be built in large numbers -- until roughly
1980 and the end of the IPD (Incentive Per Diem) box car boom, that truly marked
the end of an era. If this is your era of interest in American railroads, then
welcome to the list!"

I certainly would be interested in continuing this conversation there.


Ben Hom

Tony, with all respect, isn't that the sheriff's job? Or are you
trying to make a citizen's arrest?

Try the BBFC list = Baby Boomer Freight Cars

It covers steam to 1980

Rich Orr

On Thu, January 13, 2011 2:17 pm, SUVCWORR@... wrote:

Try the BBFC list = Baby Boomer Freight Cars

It covers steam to 1980

Oh boy! Another list to join.... :-)

--
Jeff Shultz
http://www.shultzinfosystems.com

Us baby boomer freight car nuts are a quiet bunch, easy to get along with.
Dr. Spock would be proud. And Jan 1, 2011 marked the 65th Anniversary of the
start of the boom, so what better time to join?

Tim O'Connor