caboose roofs


ed_mines
 

Were caboose roofs covered with tar paper?

How about PRR stock cars? Seems like you'd get a much more even coat than if you brushed on a liquid.

Did they ever use car cement on wood,T&G board roofs on house cars? Some show slats that are a mixture black and different greys.

ED Mines


Bruce Smith
 

On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:37 PM, EdwardM wrote:

Were caboose roofs covered with tar paper?

How about PRR stock cars?
Ed,

Stock car roofs did not have to be water-tight, so no, they would not
usually have been covered with tar paper. Darkly weathered boards
were due to soot and cinders from locomotives.

Regards
Bruce

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jerryglow2
 

IIRC Missouri Pacific that I model specified "mule hide" whatever that was. Especially on brass cabooses, I stipple on black acrylic straight out of the tube for some texture.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


On Jan 31, 2011, at 10:37 PM, EdwardM wrote:

Were caboose roofs covered with tar paper?

How about PRR stock cars?
Ed,

Stock car roofs did not have to be water-tight, so no, they would not
usually have been covered with tar paper. Darkly weathered boards
were due to soot and cinders from locomotives.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

Ed and all,

For many years on passenger cars as well as cabeese the roofs were covered with canvas which was itself then coated with an asphaltum or tar like material. I've also seen mulehide specified.

Take care, Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@..., "EdwardM" <ed_mines@...> wrote:

Were caboose roofs covered with tar paper?

How about PRR stock cars? Seems like you'd get a much more even coat than if you brushed on a liquid.

Did they ever use car cement on wood,T&G board roofs on house cars? Some show slats that are a mixture black and different greys.

ED Mines


soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., jerryglow@... wrote:

IIRC Missouri Pacific that I model specified "mule hide" whatever that was. Especially on brass cabooses, I stipple on black acrylic straight out of the tube for some texture.

Jerry Glow
"Mulehide" was treated canvas, available in sheets wide enough to do the entire width of a car, as far as I know (their ad in the Car Builder's Cyclopedias only shows a roll on the lower deck of a passenger car roof). When new, it would have been smooth, and seamless. However, it was often mopped with tar, especially when it got older, which would give it more texture.

Dennis


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Dennis Storzek wrote:
"Mulehide" was treated canvas, available in sheets wide enough to do the entire width of a car, as far as I know (their ad in the Car Builder's Cyclopedias only shows a roll on the lower deck of a passenger car roof). When new, it would have been smooth, and seamless. However, it was often mopped with tar, especially when it got older, which would give it more texture.
I don't know what brand of material was used, but SP wood cabooses had a canvas covering over the wood, and were mopped with car cement. I know of no SP freight or passenger cars which had tar paper on roofs.

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proto48er
 

Jerry -

I ate lunch at a restaurant, "The Machine Shop," in Olathe, Kansas, several years ago. The "machines" in the decor of the restaurant were harvesting machines and other farm equipment. (I was hoping for lathes and milling machines!) On the wall in one dining room was a large metal sign advertising mule hide roofing for barns and other farm buildings. Apparently that was the largest market for that roofing. It was the tarpaper stuff that barns were roofed with.

A.T. Kott

--- In STMFC@..., jerryglow@... wrote:

IIRC Missouri Pacific that I model specified "mule hide" whatever that was. Especially on brass cabooses, I stipple on black acrylic straight out of the tube for some texture.

Jerry Glow


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

A.T. Kott wrote:
On the wall in one dining room was a large metal sign advertising mule hide roofing for barns and other farm buildings. Apparently that was the largest market for that roofing. It was the tarpaper stuff that barns were roofed with.
"Mulehide" is not tarpaper. It's an impregnated fabric, judging by the Cyc ads.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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mopacfirst
 

As one who writes specs for a living, I couldn't resist. Mule-Hide still exists.

www.mulehide.com

Now the product is made from EPDM rubber, which is what's on my flat roof at home. But, in 1906, they must have used something simpler. The hitory page on the site only talks about the name, not the actual origin of the product.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

A.T. Kott wrote:
On the wall in one dining room was a large metal sign advertising
mule hide roofing for barns and other farm buildings. Apparently
that was the largest market for that roofing. It was the tarpaper
stuff that barns were roofed with.
"Mulehide" is not tarpaper. It's an impregnated fabric, judging
by the Cyc ads.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


ron christensen
 

For caboose roof material I like the paper used on model airplane wings & fuselage.
I think it is called called Japanese paper or something close. It is very strong and the texture is very close to what AMB sends with their kits for roof material.
Ron Christensen


ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@..., Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Darkly weathered boards
were due to soot and cinders from locomotives.

Yeah, but sometimes they vary greatly in color, going from light grey to midnight black, like in the photo Mike referenced.

Ed Mines