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Latest Im release of their Wood-Sheathed reefer
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Bill Welch
Two friends have asked me to comment to comment on the accuracy of
the paint and stenciling schemes for the latest release of InterMountain's wood sheathed FGE/WFE reefer post war rebuild models. To review, this kit represents cars rebuilt by FGE and WFE beginning in 1948 from cars they originally built beginning in 1926 to a new taller car design with an 8-inch side sill. Earlier cars built beginning in 1922 and retro-fitted with 6-inch side sill were also rebuilt beginning in 1922. The IM car models those rebuilds in the FGEX 57000-58999 and WFEX 71000-71034, 72000-72054, 72055-72179, 73000-73044, 73045-73084, 73900-73999 groups. Basically none of the models in the latest IM release is accurate for WFE or FGE. BRE owned no such cars. I strongly urge people not to try to model these cars without photographs. "Bob's," Jay Williams, and "Mainline" (Mike Gruber) all have good photos of these cars, as did my article in the late lamented RMJ, circa 2005. Sunshine also offers a kit of these same rebuilds with a much superior roof. The advantage of this kit is that it easier to cut the side sill off and replace it with plastic strip to recreate the cars w/the 6-inch side sills. Visually these are more interesting cars with 8-inch plates applied in various places. Although dated, information for the wood-sheathed on the special issues of PRR, B&O, and ACL/SAL online modeling magazines is still accurate and valid. I am working w/Ben Hom to update with Steel Cars and make corrections to the earlier document. None of the mistakes would effect modeling. I am going to call Martin today and bug him about doing decals to create one of the groups of Double Deck cars. Bill Welch 2225 Nursery Road; #20-104 Clearwater, FL 33764-7622 727.470.9930 fgexbill@...
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pennsylvania1954
Bill's article is in the Feb 2005 issue of RMJ. It is available online, starting here:
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/70/5074/february-2005-page-40 Steve Hoxie Pensacola FL --- In STMFC@..., Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote: 1
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Bill Welch
Thanks Steve!
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WFEX 65359 represents one of the rebuilds outside the 70000 number series, adding to the confusion. I have built this car using a Sunshine kit. Note the drop grab above the ladder and all of the busy stuff along the side sill. Very cool IMO. FGE 55572 is one of my all-time favorite photos and I plan to build this car as well. Along with WFEX 72077, these 3 cars feature the 6-inch side sill. Under the pretense of shameless self-promotion I will be doing my 2-Part presentation "The 40-Foot Freight Refrigerator Cars of the FGE/WFE/BRE Fleet: 1920-1955" on Friday & Saturday at the Savannah RPM meet March 25-26. Bill Welch
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
To change the subject slightly, Bill, what WFEX model DO you recommend?
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Bill Welch
I think all of the Sunshine WFE kits are well done. Their truss rod cars were that companies signature car until the post WWII era. In terms of numbers the 12' 1" followed by the 12' 7" height cars were the most dominant after the TR cars.
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Bill Welch
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Greg Martin
Dr. FGE writes in part:
"Thanks Steve! WFEX 65359 represents one of the rebuilds outside the 70000 number series, adding to the confusion. I have built this car using a Sunshine kit. Note the drop grab above the ladder and all of the busy stuff along the side sill. Very cool IMO." Bill and all, These were upgrades to this car were along the timeline of improvements made to these cars and were also found on the National Car Company cars and an example was on display in the poster sized photos at Cocoa Brach. As a student of Bill's I have learned what, where, and when to look for the subtle differences. Represented was the Needham Packing/ Sioux City Dressed Beef car in both photo and model form. This article is very inspiring. Greg Martin
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Greg Martin
Bill,
Aren't the Sunshine Kits too short? Greg Martin
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Greg Martin
Bill,
Not in height but in length. It seems that Bruce Smith uncovered this in our building of FGE cars on the PRR Pro list some time back. Greg Martin Bill replies: I am not sure what you are referring to here Greg. Do you mean in length or height? I have built all of these kits in multiples and they appear dimensionally correct to me. Can you say more. Bill Welch --- In _STMFC@... (mailto:STMFC@...) , tgregmrtn@... wrote:
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Bill Welch
I am not sure what you are referring to here Greg. Do you you mean in length or height? I have built all of these kits in multiples and they appear dimensionally correct to me. Can you say more.
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Bill,
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The bodies on the 1922 and 1928 Sunshine kits are a foot too short in length. And of course while the IM body is the correct length it has an intermediate height to the eaves of 12'9" (not the 12'11" for the post war rebuild or the 12'7" for the 1928 design as built). That's actually good news in a way as it makes it easier to shorten the body for an accurate 1928 car, if you alter or ignore some other detail issues... or as Greg has noted previously, you simply can consider it loaded to capacity, compressing the springs by 2" ;^) Regards Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
On Feb 16, 2011, at 6:59 AM, lnbill wrote:
I am not sure what you are referring to here Greg. Do you you mean in length or height? I have built all of these kits in multiples and they appear dimensionally correct to me. Can you say more.
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Bill Welch
I was not aware these bodies were a foot too short. I have to admit I am willing to live with this as I think the look of the models captures the look of the cars.
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Bill,
You wrote, and I quote, "Two friends have asked me to comment to comment on the accuracy of the paint and stenciling schemes for the latest release of InterMountain's wood sheathed FGE/WFE reefer post war rebuild models." You, and others, went on to discuss the InterMountain car itself and its fidelity or lack of fidelity to the prototype but, although I believe I followed the discussion quite closely, the accuracy of the paint and stenciling schemes except for a comment about an incorrect car number. Will you please comment on the accuracy of the paint and stenciling schemes? Or are the cars simply too bogus to permit a comment? Gene Green
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Bill Welch
Dear Gene:
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The paint schemes appear to be correct, although I could not tell in the cars with the later Gothic lettering have silver roofs. Bill Welch
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Thank you Dill.
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Gene Green
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Bill,
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I can't believe I misspelled your name. Please forgive. Gene Green
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