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triple hopper question
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Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
Hi,
Wondering if anyone might be able to help me a bit... I'm trying to determine what all could be modelled with a 3-bay offset-side hopper visually like the NYC 904000-904999 or PM 15000-15249 series. I already know of a number of such, but went through the ORER looking for other possible matches, and am curious if anyone can confirm or deny these. I'm looking for cars that are visually similar - if it looks right at first glance, that's good enough - right number of panels, etc; minor dimensional difference (within a foot) aren't important - I don't have the variety of available models you HO guys do, to let me be quite that picky! So the possibles I found... CIL 4501-4601 CN 108600-109099, 109105-109954, 119000-119499 CP 360000-360724 DT&I 1600-1649 Louisiana & Arkansas 4400-4799 M&StL 66001-66499 MP 61000-61999, 62000-62759 Missouri-Illinois 6350-6449 NKP/W&LE 78000-80999 Ontario Northland 140300-140324 P&LE 3000-3099 Southern 70000-70299 Thanks in advance! Frank Valoczy Vancouver, BC
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Gene <bierglaeser@...>
Frank,
I can confirm the M&StL 3-bay hoppers for you. Stewart (now Bowser) did them correctly lettered for the M&StL. I provided info to Stewart and have some of them. They are nice models with sufficient accuracy to suit me. Accurail also has or will have one for the M&StL although I have yet to see one. All M&StL open hoppers were always black and only black until the mid-1950s when some bright red ones were purchased from ACF but these had straight sides. They are not the ones to which you referred. Gene Green
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Todd Horton
I'm not sure how well they match but the C of G had 3 bay offset side cars. They
were numbered 700-899, built in 1934 by PS . Todd Horton ________________________________ From: Frank Valoczy <destron@vcn.bc.ca> To: stmfc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 8:21:15 PM Subject: [STMFC] triple hopper question Hi, Wondering if anyone might be able to help me a bit... I'm trying to determine what all could be modelled with a 3-bay offset-side hopper visually like the NYC 904000-904999 or PM 15000-15249 series. I already know of a number of such, but went through the ORER looking for other possible matches, and am curious if anyone can confirm or deny these. I'm looking for cars that are visually similar - if it looks right at first glance, that's good enough - right number of panels, etc; minor dimensional difference (within a foot) aren't important - I don't have the variety of available models you HO guys do, to let me be quite that picky! So the possibles I found... CIL 4501-4601 CN 108600-109099, 109105-109954, 119000-119499 CP 360000-360724 DT&I 1600-1649 Louisiana & Arkansas 4400-4799 M&StL 66001-66499 MP 61000-61999, 62000-62759 Missouri-Illinois 6350-6449 NKP/W&LE 78000-80999 Ontario Northland 140300-140324 P&LE 3000-3099 Southern 70000-70299 Thanks in advance! Frank Valoczy Vancouver, BC
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al_brown03
The NYC and PM series you mention both have the "sloped-stepped" end-side-sheet taper. Is this an essential feature? To me in HO it would be; but I've forgotten what scale you're in.
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-- apologies for any obscurity -- -- Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@...> wrote:
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Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
Hi Al,
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I'm in TT scale; if I were in HO, then my tolerance with regards to details like that would be rather more strict. The model-to-come will be developed using drawings and photos of PM cars, so they should be correct for that and NYC, but overall, no, that's not an essential feature. Maybe in ten years' time, though... technologies such as 3D printing have been a great gift to TT, and I can only see the situation improving. Frank Valoczy Vancouver, BC al_brown03 wrote:
The NYC and PM series you mention both have the "sloped-stepped"
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Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
Todd Horton wrote:
I'm not sure how well they match but the C of G had 3 bay offset sideHi Todd, I had that CG series listed in a second group of possibilities, in which I listed cars that had a greater divergence in certain dimensions (including capacity) than those in the first group. The second group listed: CG 700-899 Carbon County 7300-7349 B&O 621000-624999 LV 41000-41699 Roberval-Saguenay 932-961 Minnesota Western 100-129 CGW 69000-69099 CNW 65101-68103 odds CMO 49701-49999 odds IC 81500-81744 C&IW 900-934 C&IM 1000-1098, 11000-11049 Some of these though have dimensional info which match cars that I do have photos of, that are quite different in appearance from the NYC and PM cars. Frank Valoczy Vancouver, BC
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Todd Horton
Frank, I have photos of these cars if you need one for reference. Todd Horton
________________________________ From: Frank Valoczy <destron@vcn.bc.ca> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 9:21:58 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] triple hopper question Todd Horton wrote: I'm not sure how well they match but the C of G had 3 bay offset sideHi Todd, I had that CG series listed in a second group of possibilities, in which I listed cars that had a greater divergence in certain dimensions (including capacity) than those in the first group. The second group listed: CG 700-899 Carbon County 7300-7349 B&O 621000-624999 LV 41000-41699 Roberval-Saguenay 932-961 Minnesota Western 100-129 CGW 69000-69099 CNW 65101-68103 odds CMO 49701-49999 odds IC 81500-81744 C&IW 900-934 C&IM 1000-1098, 11000-11049 Some of these though have dimensional info which match cars that I do have photos of, that are quite different in appearance from the NYC and PM cars. Frank Valoczy Vancouver, BC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Frank
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Something that would account for dimensional differences in this CNW series is you've got 3 bay, and 4 bay cars, some with ribbed sides, some with rebuild panel (blister) sides, and some offsets. I think with 3 bay hoppers, esp offset hoppers, aren't we headed straight down the same road we went down with the 2 bay offsets? Lots and lots of variations? Tim O'Connor --------------------------------
CNW 65101-68103 odds
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A. Premo <armprem2@...>
What no quad hoppers? Armand Premo
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From: Tim O'Connor To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] triple hopper question Frank Something that would account for dimensional differences in this CNW series is you've got 3 bay, and 4 bay cars, some with ribbed sides, some with rebuild panel (blister) sides, and some offsets. I think with 3 bay hoppers, esp offset hoppers, aren't we headed straight down the same road we went down with the 2 bay offsets? Lots and lots of variations? Tim O'Connor -------------------------------- >CNW 65101-68103 odds > >Some of these though have dimensional info which match cars that I do have >photos of, that are quite different in appearance from the NYC and PM >cars. > >Frank Valoczy >Vancouver, BC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2804 - Release Date: 04/11/10 06:32:00 ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4d622da7a854042aa9fst05vuc
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