Georgia & Florida LOs


Frank Valoczy <destron@...>
 

Hi!

I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659

Possibly this is of a car in G&F 12076-12085 series... does anyone have
any further info on this cars?

Thanks,

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


David
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@...> wrote:
I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659
One of those wacky boogers. AB&A had six of those purchased secondhand in 1941. IIRC they were very early (late 1920s) cement hoppers originally owned by a private owner.

David Thompson


Todd Horton
 

Do any better photos of these cars exist?   G&F rolling stock photos are hard to
find. Todd Horton


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From: jaydeet2001 <jaydeet2001@yahoo.com>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:11:08 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

 
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@...> wrote:
I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659
One of those wacky boogers. AB&A had six of those purchased secondhand in 1941.
IIRC they were very early (late 1920s) cement hoppers originally owned by a
private owner.

David Thompson


al_brown03
 

There's a photo of AB&C 52001 in Goolsby's "Atlanta Birmingham & Coast", p 221. When did G&F acquire them?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:

Do any better photos of these cars exist?   G&F rolling stock photos are hard to
find. Todd Horton


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From: jaydeet2001 <jaydeet2001@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:11:08 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

 
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@> wrote:
I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659
One of those wacky boogers. AB&A had six of those purchased secondhand in 1941.
IIRC they were very early (late 1920s) cement hoppers originally owned by a
private owner.

David Thompson







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Todd Horton
 

I don't have that publication, are there photos on line anywhere? Does anyone
know how many were originally built of this car design?  Todd Horton




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From: al_brown03 <abrown@fit.edu>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:31:46 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

 
There's a photo of AB&C 52001 in Goolsby's "Atlanta Birmingham & Coast", p 221.
When did G&F acquire them?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Todd Horton <toddchorton@...> wrote:

Do any better photos of these cars exist?   G&F rolling stock photos are hard
to

find. Todd Horton


________________________________
From: jaydeet2001 <jaydeet2001@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:11:08 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

 
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@> wrote:
I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659
One of those wacky boogers. AB&A had six of those purchased secondhand in 1941.

IIRC they were very early (late 1920s) cement hoppers originally owned by a
private owner.

David Thompson









al_brown03
 

Also per Goolsby: these were originally the Hercules Powder 1002 series, built 1929-31 (builder not stated), acquired by AB&C (52001-52006) in 1941 via Georgia Car & Locomotive. They became ACL 86000-86005 after merger (1/1/46), appear as such (all six cars) in the 1/53 ORER.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "al_brown03" <abrown@...> wrote:

There's a photo of AB&C 52001 in Goolsby's "Atlanta Birmingham & Coast", p 221. When did G&F acquire them?

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Todd Horton <toddchorton@> wrote:

Do any better photos of these cars exist?   G&F rolling stock photos are hard to
find. Todd Horton


________________________________
From: jaydeet2001 <jaydeet2001@>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 21, 2011 6:11:08 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Georgia & Florida LOs

 
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@> wrote:
I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659
One of those wacky boogers. AB&A had six of those purchased secondhand in 1941.
IIRC they were very early (late 1920s) cement hoppers originally owned by a
private owner.

David Thompson







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Riley K <riley050748@...>
 

The cars are mentioned in a history of the G&F, Rails Through the Wiregrass, published by the Northern Illinois Press. Since the road was never ever in decent financial shape, the Douglas, GA shops often improvised in building such freight equipment. These cards were meant for use on-line, for animal feed, as the road had no credit after WW II. That's all that's said about the cars.

Riley Kinney

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Valoczy" <destron@...> wrote:

Hi!

I recently saw a photo (scan of a slide, rather poor quality, i.e. very
small) of a strange-looking Georgia & Florida covered hopper:

http://www.ttnut.com/resources/image/2659

Possibly this is of a car in G&F 12076-12085 series... does anyone have
any further info on this cars?

Thanks,

Frank Valoczy
Vancouver, BC


Benjamin Scanlon
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Riley K" <riley050748@...> wrote:



The cars are mentioned in a history of the G&F, Rails Through the Wiregrass, published by the Northern Illinois Press. Since the road was never ever in decent financial shape, the Douglas, GA shops often improvised in building such freight equipment. These cards were meant for use on-line, for animal feed, as the road had no credit after WW II. That's all that's said about the cars.

Riley Kinney
Hi

Thanks to the moderator for allowing me to join the list. I joined in part because I wanted to find out more about these, among other Georgia & Florida RR equipment.

Rails Through the Wiregrass says

"Although a few years earlier the company had acquired 150 wood racks and built twenty-six all-steel hopper cars for online shipments of chicken feed ..."

The implication being that they were built around the time the G&F got the wood racks, which was 1953 I believe, when National Container Corporation established a mill near Valdosta, GA. These wood racks themselves are something I'd like to know more about; they were allegedly not up to much, the comment is made "these cars were light duty and cracked." If anyone has a shot of either car they can share I would love to see it ...

G&F had some older more traditional (?) looking wood racks but I believe the 1953 ones were fishbelly design.

Regards

Ben