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National Type B/B-1 (was Re: Kadee Trucks)
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GN 15400, 40' double door box (postwar AAR) FW&D 8346, 40' single door box (1940 AAR) FW&D 8427, 40' single door box (1940 AAR) MONON 9383, 40' single door box (1937 AAR) GTW 591399, 50' double door box, end doors (1940 AAR) CB&Q 21000-21299, 50' single door box (1940 AAR) CB&Q 48500-48599, 50' double door box, end doors (1940 AAR) ERIE 95000-95099, 40' double door box (1940 AAR) Also: hoppers, gondolas, tank cars, covered hoppers, and reefers... :-) Some National Type B-1's were made with roller bearings, but we won't go there... Tim O'Connor ------------------------------------------------ Brian Leppert wrote
OK Paul, for you and other truck-challenged modelers <grin>, here's some applications for National Malleable & Steel Castings Co's "B" trucks on 40' steel box cars.
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Paul Lyons
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Which are they--B, or B-1? Paul Lyons
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From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Apr 15, 2011 10:43 am Subject: [STMFC] Re: National Type B/B-1 (was Re: Kadee Trucks) Add: GN 15400, 40' double door box (postwar AAR) FW&D 8346, 40' single door box (1940 AAR) FW&D 8427, 40' single door box (1940 AAR) MONON 9383, 40' single door box (1937 AAR) GTW 591399, 50' double door box, end doors (1940 AAR) CB&Q 21000-21299, 50' single door box (1940 AAR) CB&Q 48500-48599, 50' double door box, end doors (1940 AAR) ERIE 95000-95099, 40' double door box (1940 AAR) Also: hoppers, gondolas, tank cars, covered hoppers, and reefers... :-) Some National Type B-1's were made with roller bearings, but we won't go there... Tim O'Connor ------------------------------------------------ Brian Leppert wrote OK Paul, for you and other truck-challenged modelers <grin>, here's some applications for National Malleable & Steel Castings Co's "B" trucks on 40' steel box cars. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Gimme a break Paul :-) Until Brian mentioned it two days ago,
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I didn't even know there were two types! Thanks a lot, Brian! Remember my comment about no one complaining about incorrect retainer valves because there weren't any? Now we'll be worrying about having the WRONG National Type-whatever truck. Thank God no one has made all-metal vs composition brake shoe details yet! And what about roll dampers (those little widgets on top of the truck bolsters)? There were many different brands and styles, usually customer-specified. Egad, there's no end in sight! =-O Tim O'Connor p.s. just kidding. i eat this stuff up.
At 4/15/2011 01:52 PM Friday, you wrote:
Tim,
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brianleppert@att.net
I've added truck types below.
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Brian Leppert Carson City, NV
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< snip> Mont Switzer states (MM 12/91 p 58) that CIL 9150-9499 had National Type B-1 trucks. Some published photos:MONON 9383, 40' single door box (1937 AAR)---? never seen a photo CIL 9294 and 9157: MRG 9-10/84 p 11 CIL 9179: MM 12/91 p 60 CIL 9271: MM 12/95 p 41 CIL 9427: MM 9/01 p 53 CIL 9225 and 9283: MM 11/05 p 59 Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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brianleppert@att.net
Every car in the photos have National B-1 trucks, except I can't say for sure of #9427--the photo isn't that good.
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Thanks, Al. Again, the feature I look for is that funny bolster end. If the bottom is parallel to the top, it's a B-1. If the bottom angles up to the top, then a Type B. The Type B shows a lot more of the spring. Brian Leppert Carson City, NV
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--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "brianleppert@" <brianleppert@> wrote:Mont Switzer states (MM 12/91 p 58) that CIL 9150-9499 had National Type B-1 trucks. Some published photos:MONON 9383, 40' single door box (1937 AAR)---? never seen a photo
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