On Jul 15, 2011, at 5:26 PM, almabranch wrote:

I thought he was a cardiologist.

For the longest time I conflated him with Steve Polkinghorn,
the dentist, having never met either of them.
--
Nolan Hinshaw, native Californian since 1944
"Gib einem Mann einen Fisch und er wird für einen Tag
zu essen. Teach einen Mann zu fischen und er wird in
einem Boot sitzen den ganzen Tag und trinken Bier."

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:51:14 -0400, Andy Harman wrote

It happens somewhere every year around this time... I guess I felt motivated.
I know more about the subject than I do about steam era freight cars, it
seems. Interesting angles on it this time. Don't think anybody has changed
their opinion much. My experience has mostly jelled my opinion, nothing
really to change it. New ways to express the thought pop up in response to
new input... or old input that I thought had gone away :-) Some things...
many things.... do not change.

Interesting. I sent this email Thursday night about 1 am. Two others I sent Thursday
bounced back and never posted. I also sent out some private emails and got no responses
- I think I sent private mails to Jack, Mike B. and Denny, maybe they never went
through. Anyway I'm not violating the topic closure, really.

Andy

On Jul 15, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Andy Harman wrote:

At 12:26 AM 7/16/2011 +0000, you wrote:

I thought he was a cardiologist.

Will the real Doc Denny please stand up? :-)

I'll do it for him, since I'm sure he's fed up with this nonsense.
Denny Anspach has an MD from the Stanford University School of
Medicine and, before his retirement, was a specialist in Neurology,
Diagnostic Radiology, and Neuroradiology. If list members aren't
careful, he can zap your brains with X-rays and turn you into
gibbering idiots - but that would be redundant, wouldn't it? <g>

Richard Hendrickson (who happens to be a PhD though not an NMRA
certified MMR)

At 12:26 AM 7/16/2011 +0000, you wrote:

I thought he was a cardiologist.

Will the real Doc Denny please stand up? :-)

Andy

I thought he was a cardiologist.
Jared Harper
Athens, GA

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"LOL. Very revealing Ben! -- you know Denny is a gynecologist, yes?"

That's my point - he's had to do a residency, so he's still more far qualified
to treat puncture wounds than someone with "Association Volunteer" on his
resume. 


Ben Hom

LOL. Very revealing Ben! -- you know Denny is a gynecologist, yes?

Tim

Gee, I'm going to miss this.

John B. Allyn

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:44:54 -0400, Tim O'Connor wrote

84 emails; 9 people who spoke out 3 or more times each. Andy gets
the award for the most, 18 posts on one thread in 28 hours!

It happens somewhere every year around this time... I guess I felt motivated. I know
more about the subject than I do about steam era freight cars, it seems. Interesting
angles on it this time. Don't think anybody has changed their opinion much. My
experience has mostly jelled my opinion, nothing really to change it. New ways to
express the thought pop up in response to new input... or old input that I thought had
gone away :-) Some things... many things.... do not change.

Andy

I attended a regional convention where a physician was to be installed as an MMR. He was true to his profession and his oath by first attending to a convention-goer who took ill.

As for workshop mishaps, I recall an incident with a scalpel. Telling the ER physician that you cut your fingertip off with a #17 scalpel blade tells him exactly what the mechanism of injury was! (now just hold that dressing over your fingertip while you wait in the OR...)

And now I keep a foot-long length of 1 1/2" aluminum angle handy to score acrylic sheet...as well as a few various-size first-aid dressings on a clip attached to the whiteboard above my workbench.

Steve Lucas.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 21:56:14 -0400, Bill Schneider wrote

I suspect that most on this list can make the distinction.

Umm, yeah. Having dealt with no less than five different people with the MD after their
names in the past 12 days, some with additional initials, I know the difference. Also
have dealt with a dozen RNs, a bunch more LPNs...

MMRs go to MDs when they cut themselves with a "number eleven hobby knife".

RPMs go to MDs when they have weeks of "mystery fever" with no other symptoms. Good
thing too.

Andy

Bill Schneider wrote in response to Nelson Moyer:
"You didn’t actually ask that, did you?

“MMR” vs. “MD”.... I suspect that most on this list can make the distinction. If

you can’t, contact me off list..."

I know who I'M calling after my next workshop mishap...and it's not the guy with
the certification from the NMRA.


Ben Hom

Nelson,

You didn’t actually ask that, did you?

“MMR” vs. “MD”.... I suspect that most on this list can make the distinction. If you can’t, contact me off list...

Bill Schneider

From: Nelson Moyer
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:59 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Contests (was: NMRA Sacramento)


Hi Denny,

How does your rant relate to the tin star conferred upon you by the medical
school you attended and the initials behind your name at the bottom of your
email? What's the difference between signing MD and MMR; initials are
initials. Most doctoral level professions I know (and I'm one too) only use
their titles professionally, not in a social or hobby context. I bet you're
also board certified, which is akin to achieving MMR; )

Nelson


-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dennyanspach
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:39 PM
To: mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Contests (was: NMRA Sacramento)

Most, i.e. most all of the fine modelers that I know, and have known, earn
their high respect the old fashioned way by the quality of their modeling
and their models, not by the winning of a bestowed tin star by the NMRA; or
insisting or allowing that that same title be appended to the end of their
name; or in one recent case the insistence that the person be so addressed
in correspondence as to recognize his exalted position! Wow!

I do know a lot of very fine critical modelers. For just about all of them,
achievement awards, including MMR, are absolutely irrelevant to the quality
of work that they do, or their ability to perform same.

I do admire and respect the work of a number of modelers that have been
awarded the MMR, but that is because these particular modelers have allowed
their fine work to amply speak for itself, thus earning far more honest
approbation by true peers than any title can possibly bestow.

In the interests of decorum, respect for fellow listers and their families,
and the fervent wish to stay on the good side of our moderator, I will now
withhold my real thoughts on this subject.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento

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Wow. I leave the computer for a little while... I guess there
was a lot of pent-up feelings about the NMRA. I have not read the
thread emails yet.

84 emails; 9 people who spoke out 3 or more times each. Andy gets
the award for the most, 18 posts on one thread in 28 hours!

Ah well, I guess when I have some time. Back to whatever. :-)

Tim O'

Hi Denny,

How does your rant relate to the tin star conferred upon you by the medical
school you attended and the initials behind your name at the bottom of your
email? What's the difference between signing MD and MMR; initials are
initials. Most doctoral level professions I know (and I'm one too) only use
their titles professionally, not in a social or hobby context. I bet you're
also board certified, which is akin to achieving MMR; )

Nelson

Most, i.e. most all of the fine modelers that I know, and have known, earn their high respect the old fashioned way by the quality of their modeling and their models, not by the winning of a bestowed tin star by the NMRA; or insisting or allowing that that same title be appended to the end of their name; or in one recent case the insistence that the person be so addressed in correspondence as to recognize his exalted position! Wow!

I do know a lot of very fine critical modelers. For just about all of them, achievement awards, including MMR, are absolutely irrelevant to the quality of work that they do, or their ability to perform same.

I do admire and respect the work of a number of modelers that have been awarded the MMR, but that is because these particular modelers have allowed their fine work to amply speak for itself, thus earning far more honest approbation by true peers than any title can possibly bestow.

In the interests of decorum, respect for fellow listers and their families, and the fervent wish to stay on the good side of our moderator, I will now withhold my real thoughts on this subject.

Denny








Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento

Posted by: "Joel Holmes" lehighvalley@... joeloh3
Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:46 am (PDT)

How does one get judged for NMRA achievement programs?

Joel Holmes

Several ways.

Enter in an NMRA contest, score the require number of points (87.5)

Arrange for it to be judged just for the Merit Award and not the contest, can be done by the same group that does the contest judging at a convention.

Arrange for an in home or other location judging of models - perhaps at the same time they are doing Scenery, Electrical, etc.

Howard Garner
Prototype modeler, NMRA life member and sometime judge at regional and national conventions

Hi, Marcelo, You say:

I hope to see you guys next year in Cocoa Beach and will bring the model.

Now that's a plan. I look forward to seeing it.

Mike Brock

That of course, doesn't align with the NMRA AP requirements, but I've lost
interest in fighting with these guys about their own rules.



I look at contest pretty much the same way-just like submitting photos to
magazines like Trains. That's one of the reasons I took about 10 years off
from the NMRA. My job involves politics all day, I don't need that in my
hobby too.



Pat Wilkinson

I'm reminded of a layout tour in the mid-1960s in the Garden State Division. One guy was very nice and mild-mannered. Never tooted his own horn. When we got to his layout our jaws just dropped. John Allen quality and quantity with day-into-night lighting, a stern wheeler that ran on hidden track in actual water, most equipment completely scratch built, etc. On the spot we offered to judge his models for achievement certificates, assuring him that he had enough for MMR except for Association Volunteer. He declined. Shortly afterward his wife divorced him and he lost almost everything. But he moved to New Hampshire where he totally rebuilt it and then built an SN3 layout of the same quality. After his death there was one photo printed in MR. I took some photos in NH. But where did I put them? - Al Westerfield