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Climax radial roof
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Richard Townsend
Does anyone make a good representation of the Climax radial roof?
Richard Townsend Lincoln City, Oregon |
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David
--- In STMFC@..., richtownsend@... wrote:
There have been various renditions of it in resin kits over the years: the Yankee Clipper/F&C ARA steel boxes, Westerfield N&W and C&O USRA ss boxes, some Sunshine cars, etc. Don't think it's ever been done as a separate piece. David Thompson |
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Greg Martin
I wonder if these roof are available separately as I could see a bash to
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the UP -40-10 that would give us this roof. Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean In a message dated 7/24/2011 6:03:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
eric@... writes: Atlas has produced the 1932 ARA steel box car in HO scale with a number of different roof hardware. I have not checked my models, but the roof may be a separate part. A couple of models were produced with a radial roof on the last batch imported late last year. I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof. _http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.j pg_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpg) They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Is this the Chicago-Viking radial roof? _http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.j pg_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.jpg) An Erie car was produced on an earlier run with this same radial roof. _http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.j pg_ (ht tp://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jpg) I don't recall discussion on this list about the prototype fidelity regarding the roofs of these Atlas models. Eric Eric Hansmann Chagrin Falls, Ohio ... for now ... |
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Greg Martin
Ooops I meant to say a UP S-40-10.
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Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean In a message dated 7/24/2011 9:19:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tgregmrtn@... writes: I wonder if these roof are available separately as I could see a bash to the UP -40-10 that would give us this roof. Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean In a message dated 7/24/2011 6:03:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _eric@... (mailto:eric@...) writes: Atlas has produced the 1932 ARA steel box car in HO scale with a number of different roof hardware. I have not checked my models, but the roof may be a separate part. A couple of models were produced with a radial roof on the last batch imported late last year. I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof. __http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ. j_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.j) pg_ (_http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ. jpg_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpg) ) They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Is this the Chicago-Viking radial roof? __http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ. j_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.j) pg_ (_http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ. jpg_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.jpg) ) An Erie car was produced on an earlier run with this same radial roof. __http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ. j_ (http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.j) pg_ (ht _tp://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jpg _ (tp://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jpg) ) I don't recall discussion on this list about the prototype fidelity regarding the roofs of these Atlas models. Eric Eric Hansmann Chagrin Falls, Ohio ... for now ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Eric Hansmann
Atlas has produced the 1932 ARA steel box car in HO scale with a number of different roof hardware. I have not checked my models, but the roof may be a separate part. A couple of models were produced with a radial roof on the last batch imported late last year. I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof.
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http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpg They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Is this the Chicago-Viking radial roof? http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.jpg An Erie car was produced on an earlier run with this same radial roof. http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jpg I don't recall discussion on this list about the prototype fidelity regarding the roofs of these Atlas models. Eric Eric Hansmann Chagrin Falls, Ohio ... for now ... --- In STMFC@..., richtownsend@... wrote:
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David
--- In STMFC@..., "Eric" <eric@...> wrote:
I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof. http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpgCambre radial, not the Climax radial of the late 1920s. They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Is this the Chicago-Viking radial roof?Viking peaked roof of the 1930s for these two. David Thompson |
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Schuyler Larrabee
Agreed. Having one of the ERIE cars within reach, the roof is NOT radial,
but is peaked. SGL --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric" <eric@...> wrote: I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof. http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jp g Cambre radial, not the Climax radial of the late 1920s. They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Isthis the Chicago-Viking radial roof? http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.jp g http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jp g Viking peaked roof of the 1930s for these two. David Thompson ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17970) http://www.pctools.com <http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=EmailFooterClean_51> ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17970) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= |
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jerryglow2
The roof, sides and ends are all one molding
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Jerry Glow --- In STMFC@..., tgregmrtn@... wrote:
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Benjamin Hom
Eric Hansmann wrote:
"I don't recall discussion on this list about the prototype fidelity regarding the roofs of these Atlas models. I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof." http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpg Correct; C&O 7000-7649. "They also offer a Norfolk Southern car with a slightly different roof. Is this the Chicago-Viking radial roof?" http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000922_TQ.jpg Viking roof, but a peaked roof, not radial; NS 25000-25499. "An Erie car was produced on an earlier run with this same radial roof." http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/1108/20000324_TQ.jpg As Schuyler poster earlier, not a radial roof, but a Viking peaked roof, ERIE 76500-76999. Atlas should be commended for putting in the effort to match the major details (roof, ends) to the prototype. (It's almost like two different teams gave us the 1932 ARA boxcars and the "Rebuilt" boxcar POS.) http://www.steamfreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/1932arapdfmain.html Ben Hom |
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David
--- In STMFC@..., Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Cambre radial roof. David Thompson |
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Benjamin Hom
Eric Hansmann wrote:
"I don't recall discussion on this list about the prototype fidelity regarding the roofs of these Atlas models. I think this C&O car has the Climax Radial roof." http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/HOFreightCars/ho1932boxcar/0610/20000918_TQ.jpg I replied: "Correct; C&O 7000-7649." David Thompson replied: "Cambre radial roof." What source are you quoting from? My Climax Radial Roof call came from Ed Hawkins' spreadsheet linked in my previous post. To muddy the waters further, Ted Culotta identifies the roof for these cars as Hutchins radial roofs. Anyone have any C&O documentation conclusively proving what roof these cars had? (And I'm looking directly at YOU, Al Kresse.) Ben Hom |
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David
--- In STMFC@..., Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
The C&O diagram simply says "Hutchins" without further detail. The roof is question is that same one that DT&I used on their USRA ds rebuilds. DT&I identified that roof as "Cambre" on their diagram. David Thompson |
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Ed Hawkins
On Jul 27, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
What source are you quoting from? My Climax Radial Roof call cameBen, My data shows Hutchins radial roof for C&O 7000-7649. The list of 1932 ARA cars published on the STMFC, which was a list assembled by several people but is credited in my name, simply states "R" for Radial Roof in the roof column and does not specify which type or manufacturer. Therefore I don't know where the "Climax" came from. This should clear the waters. More specifically, the C&O diagram for series 7000-7649 states the cars had Hutchins roofs with a note 11 that states "50 cars to have SRE Co's. paneled type roof applied. #14 ga." This diagram is originally dated June 1934 with 7 revisions, the latest being 1-3-60 (hard to read, but that's what I think it says). I don't know when note 11 was applied. In addition, there's note 1 that specifies Ajax hand brake replacing geared type. Regards, Ed Hawkins |
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