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Jim Hayes
It's not the casting. It's the very high quality of the masters.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:
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Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:
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I'm soon entering a casting phase and would love to know what makes
Dennis's kits special. Those are lessons I'd love to learn about. Dennis?
Thanks much,
Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa
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Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
In fairness it's both.
I've had my hands on many of those kits and have never had an issue with a flawed casting. And I maintain that those masters remain to this day some of the best ever marketed.
Pierre Oliver
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I've had my hands on many of those kits and have never had an issue with a flawed casting. And I maintain that those masters remain to this day some of the best ever marketed.
Pierre Oliver
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It's not the casting. It's the very high quality of the masters.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:**
I'm soon entering a casting phase and would love to know what makes
Dennis's kits special. Those are lessons I'd love to learn about. Dennis?
Thanks much,
Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa
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Bill Welch
Jim is completely correct. Dennis' kits more or less fall together because they are well thought through and engineered to fit well and just as important, easily together. The "easily" is hard to explain in words. but the patterns were clearly done by someone who was thinking about assembly. Getting your hands on one of his kits would be helpful to you Brian, but I realize this may not be easy.
Alternatively, you might want to see if you can get your hands on one of the Northern Pacific stock cars done about 5 years ago by Aaron G. (I will only mangle the spelling if I try, sorry Aaron). This kit is another that I remember kind of "putting itself together."
This is not to minimize knowing what to do in terms of making the castings. I have done three full kits for Sunshine now and I remember speaking to Martin a couple of times to understand his process of using hard rubber to create the secondary masters to in turn create the production parts for the kits. I spoke specifically to him about how much I could push the envelope with undercuts as I saw these as very important in helping components fit together easily and accurately.
Bill Welch
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Alternatively, you might want to see if you can get your hands on one of the Northern Pacific stock cars done about 5 years ago by Aaron G. (I will only mangle the spelling if I try, sorry Aaron). This kit is another that I remember kind of "putting itself together."
This is not to minimize knowing what to do in terms of making the castings. I have done three full kits for Sunshine now and I remember speaking to Martin a couple of times to understand his process of using hard rubber to create the secondary masters to in turn create the production parts for the kits. I spoke specifically to him about how much I could push the envelope with undercuts as I saw these as very important in helping components fit together easily and accurately.
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@..., Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@...> wrote:
It's not the casting. It's the very high quality of the masters.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:**
I'm soon entering a casting phase and would love to know what makes
Dennis's kits special. Those are lessons I'd love to learn about. Dennis?
Thanks much,
Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa
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soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
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Dennis
Thanks again for the kind words, but I'm surprised that no one remembers WHY they "fall together"... Mine were some of the few resin kits that had alignment ledges, for want of a better term, on the back of the parts to locate them during assembly. The roofs had a ledge along each edge to accept the car sides, and the car sides had a ledge to locate the floor. The modeler was still responsible for assembling the roof and sides square, touching up the length with sandpaper, and then gluing the ends on centered. Once that was done, the ledges at the bottom of the sides kept the floor from slipping too far into the body.
Jim is completely correct. Dennis' kits more or less fall together because they are well thought through and engineered to fit well and just as important, easily together. The "easily" is hard to explain in words. but the patterns were clearly done by someone who was thinking about assembly. Getting your hands on one of his kits would be helpful to you Brian, but I realize this may not be easy.
Dennis
gn999gn
Aaron G is the owner of Northern Specific Models HO scale kits.
The NP livestock car of which you refer was marketed under that brand.
ron depierre
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The NP livestock car of which you refer was marketed under that brand.
ron depierre
--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:
Jim is completely correct. Dennis' kits more or less fall together because they are well thought through and engineered to fit well and just as important, easily together. The "easily" is hard to explain in words. but the patterns were clearly done by someone who was thinking about assembly. Getting your hands on one of his kits would be helpful to you Brian, but I realize this may not be easy.
Alternatively, you might want to see if you can get your hands on one of the Northern Pacific stock cars done about 5 years ago by Aaron G. (I will only mangle the spelling if I try, sorry Aaron). This kit is another that I remember kind of "putting itself together."
This is not to minimize knowing what to do in terms of making the castings. I have done three full kits for Sunshine now and I remember speaking to Martin a couple of times to understand his process of using hard rubber to create the secondary masters to in turn create the production parts for the kits. I spoke specifically to him about how much I could push the envelope with undercuts as I saw these as very important in helping components fit together easily and accurately.
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@..., Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@> wrote:
It's not the casting. It's the very high quality of the masters.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@> wrote:**
I'm soon entering a casting phase and would love to know what makes
Dennis's kits special. Those are lessons I'd love to learn about. Dennis?
Thanks much,
Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa
Jim Hayes
The NP stockcar is available from the NPRHA Company Store
http://www1.storehost.com/stores/xq/xfm/store_id.615/page_id.23/Item_ID.153017/parent_ids.0,0,1/qx/store.htm
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:13 PM, carbonblack1 <radepierre@...> wrote:
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http://www1.storehost.com/stores/xq/xfm/store_id.615/page_id.23/Item_ID.153017/parent_ids.0,0,1/qx/store.htm
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:13 PM, carbonblack1 <radepierre@...> wrote:
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Aaron G is the owner of Northern Specific Models HO scale kits.
The NP livestock car of which you refer was marketed under that brand.
ron depierre
--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:because they are well thought through and engineered to fit well and just as
Jim is completely correct. Dennis' kits more or less fall together
important, easily together. The "easily" is hard to explain in words. but
the patterns were clearly done by someone who was thinking about assembly.
Getting your hands on one of his kits would be helpful to you Brian, but I
realize this may not be easy.the Northern Pacific stock cars done about 5 years ago by Aaron G. (I will
Alternatively, you might want to see if you can get your hands on one of
only mangle the spelling if I try, sorry Aaron). This kit is another that I
remember kind of "putting itself together."castings. I have done three full kits for Sunshine now and I remember
This is not to minimize knowing what to do in terms of making the
speaking to Martin a couple of times to understand his process of using hard
rubber to create the secondary masters to in turn create the production
parts for the kits. I spoke specifically to him about how much I could push
the envelope with undercuts as I saw these as very important in helping
components fit together easily and accurately.Dennis?
Bill Welch
--- In STMFC@..., Jim Hayes <jimhayes97225@> wrote:
It's not the casting. It's the very high quality of the masters.
Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@> wrote:**
I'm soon entering a casting phase and would love to know what makes
Dennis's kits special. Those are lessons I'd love to learn about.
Thanks much,
Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa
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