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DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Todd Horton
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Todd Horton
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From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:57 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
I don't know but I'd take a guess that it was all coal.
Dave Nelson
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Allen Rueter
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Dave,
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
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Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
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From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
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Todd Horton
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From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:57 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
I don't know but I'd take a guess that it was all coal.
Dave Nelson
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Allen Rueter
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Dave,
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
________________________________
From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
8<
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Dave Nelson
I don't know but I'd take a guess that it was all coal.
Dave Nelson
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Allen Rueter
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Dave,
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
________________________________
From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
8<
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
Allen Rueter
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Dave,
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
________________________________
From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
8<
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Chuck Soule
Dave Nelson wrote:
Chuck Soule
Gig Harbor, Wa
If they were carrying copper ore or concentrate, there is a very strong possibility they were going to the Asarco smelter in Tacoma. My earliest memories of the flying Rio Grande logo (mid to late 50s?) were on gondolas on the Tacoma waterfront going to and from the smelter.
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
Chuck Soule
Gig Harbor, Wa
Allen Rueter
Dave,
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
________________________________
From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
8<
thanks to your database,
in Oct 1947 the following passed through Bieber CA
229 DRGW 40000-42500 GS
142 UCR 20000-21999 GS
133 DRGW 70000-70699 GS
115 DRGW 71000-71999 GS
98 DRGW 45000-45499 GS
Was this mostly Coal?
--
Allen Rueter
StLouis MO
________________________________
From: Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
8<
Jeff Fry
Dave-
I'd be very interested in seeing you CAD work on these cars.
Jeff Fry
Tennessee Pass fits in the basement!
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I'd be very interested in seeing you CAD work on these cars.
Jeff Fry
Tennessee Pass fits in the basement!
--- In STMFC@..., "Dave Nelson" <Lake_Muskoka@...> wrote:
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
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Dave Nelson
They also saw service running across the Western Pacific to Keddie CA. where
they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
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they turned north for delivery up in Washington, via a route thru Klamath
Falls. I think they went to Spokane but my recollection is a bit fuzzy on
that.
As chance would have it I'm in the middle of creating a 3d CAD model of this
car (having the original blueprints from the Pressed Steel Car company is
handy). If anyone is interested in seeing some screenshots I'd be glad to
pop some into the photo library.
Dave Nelson
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
RailGoat
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Gary,
Which number series are you referring to for these cars?
Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/
Angeles run to supply the Pacific fleet with coal until it was converted to
burn oil. A few cars were equipped with coal racks to serve the steel mills
in Pueblo and the Geneva Works. Of course, they were used in sugar beet
service and ended their service on the Monarch branch hauling limestone.
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of
RailGoat
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: DRGW 70 ton Gondolas
Gary,
Which number series are you referring to for these cars?
Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/
had two brake shoes per wheel. The cars were used on the DRGW to Los
The 70 ton trucks on these 47'-21/4" 1922 Pressed Steel gondolas also
Angeles run to supply the Pacific fleet with coal until it was converted to
burn oil. A few cars were equipped with coal racks to serve the steel mills
in Pueblo and the Geneva Works. Of course, they were used in sugar beet
service and ended their service on the Monarch branch hauling limestone.
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Lee
70000-70699
Interestingly, at least 20 cars were refitted and classified as
class GB for the 'bullion trade'.
These are the cars W&R imported just over 10 years ago.
Tim O'
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Interestingly, at least 20 cars were refitted and classified as
class GB for the 'bullion trade'.
These are the cars W&R imported just over 10 years ago.
Tim O'
At 3/18/2012 08:46 AM Sunday, you wrote:
Gary,
Which number series are you referring to for these cars?
Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/
The 70 ton trucks on these 47'-21/4" 1922 Pressed Steel gondolas also had two brake shoes per wheel. The cars were used on the DRGW to Los Angeles run to supply the Pacific fleet with coal until it was converted to burn oil. A few cars were equipped with coal racks to serve the steel mills in Pueblo and the Geneva Works. Of course, they were used in sugar beet service and ended their service on the Monarch branch hauling limestone.
gary laakso
Lee Gautreaux
Gary,
Which number series are you referring to for these cars?
Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/
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Which number series are you referring to for these cars?
Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/
The 70 ton trucks on these 47'-21/4" 1922 Pressed Steel gondolas also had two brake shoes per wheel. The cars were used on the DRGW to Los Angeles run to supply the Pacific fleet with coal until it was converted to burn oil. A few cars were equipped with coal racks to serve the steel mills in Pueblo and the Geneva Works. Of course, they were used in sugar beet service and ended their service on the Monarch branch hauling limestone.
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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gary laakso
The 70 ton trucks on these 47'-21/4" 1922 Pressed Steel gondolas also had two brake shoes per wheel. The cars were used on the DRGW to Los Angeles run to supply the Pacific fleet with coal until it was converted to burn oil. A few cars were equipped with coal racks to serve the steel mills in Pueblo and the Geneva Works. Of course, they were used in sugar beet service and ended their service on the Monarch branch hauling limestone.
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Sent: 3/17/2012 2:27:25 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: GS Gons
Richard,
I would say that they were an early version of a Buckeye 70-Ton truck. I used to see an updated version of this type of truck beneath Bessemer & Lake Erie triple hoppers when I worked as a PRR operator at Stadium Tower in Greenwich Yard in South Philadelphia in 1967-1968. Greenwich was a destination for coal trains of export coal at the time and a good third of the loaded hoppers were B&LE triples with the later version of the Buckeye truck. Indeed, the horns were the support for the brake beams and outside clasp brakes.
Best regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...
From:
To: STMFC@...
Sent: 3/17/2012 2:27:25 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: GS Gons
Richard,
I would say that they were an early version of a Buckeye 70-Ton truck. I used to see an updated version of this type of truck beneath Bessemer & Lake Erie triple hoppers when I worked as a PRR operator at Stadium Tower in Greenwich Yard in South Philadelphia in 1967-1968. Greenwich was a destination for coal trains of export coal at the time and a good third of the loaded hoppers were B&LE triples with the later version of the Buckeye truck. Indeed, the horns were the support for the brake beams and outside clasp brakes.
Best regards,
Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479
(302) 738-4292
tmolsen@...