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New Shapes to come

Ed <nprybiged@...>
 

All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem
ronald parisi
 

Group:

I think that asking them to model in all 3 scales might be excessive. I
would definitely
buy it in HO scale.

Ron parisi

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Ed <nprybiged@comcast.net> wrote:

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All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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Brian Ehni <behni@...>
 

If you make them to CODE, they are scale immaterial. He's only asking for
three sizes.


Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

On 6/20/12 2:02 PM, "ronald parisi" <ronald.parisi@gmail.com> wrote:

Group:

I think that asking them to model in all 3 scales might be excessive. I
would definitely
buy it in HO scale.

Ron parisi

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Ed <nprybiged@comcast.net> wrote:

**


All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem







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Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <nprybiged@...> wrote:

All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem
You might also want to add Code 125, which would pick up the On3 modelers. The narrow gauge was a big user of re-purposed rail for building bins, and braces of all sorts.

If you find a receptive ear, you might also suggest two more strip sizes at the small end of their selection; .010 x .010, and .010 x .015. All their strip selections end with .020" wide material; these smaller sizes would be useful for building windows, among other things.

Dennis
Ed <nprybiged@...>
 

Ron

I have dealt in designing model projects in the NPRHA and have
found when we did a model and produced it in HO scale the
first thing we heard was "when are you going to do this in
N Scale?" and then "when are you going to do this in O Scale?"

So that's why I worded the request that way in hopes that I get
responces from all three Scale Modelers.

Yes Ron, I to would only buy HO Scale, but I think, it's only
fair to ask the question in all three scales.

Thanks for your responce Ron
Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, ronald parisi <ronald.parisi@...> wrote:

Group:

I think that asking them to model in all 3 scales might be excessive. I
would definitely
buy it in HO scale.

Ron parisi

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Ed <nprybiged@...> wrote:

**


All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem
Michael Watnoski
 

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55 in long lengths. This is a much needed item for detailing many structures. It was often used for making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael

On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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MDelvec952
 

I'd vote for rail-shapes in various cross sections as well -- very useful when the rest of the structure is in styrene.

I'd also vote for molding the rail-shapes in a "rail brown" color.

....Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@comcast.net>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Shapes to come





Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael

On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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William Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Mike and Group,

Let's not complicate things...

White material is OK. I believe that most of us would paint and weather our own and white is a good place to start.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Jun 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, MDelvec952@aol.com wrote:


I'd vote for rail-shapes in various cross sections as well -- very useful when the rest of the structure is in styrene.

I'd also vote for molding the rail-shapes in a "rail brown" color.

....Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@comcast.net>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Shapes to come

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael

On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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Ed <nprybiged@...>
 

Thanks Bill

Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, William Keene <wakeene@...> wrote:

Hello Mike and Group,

Let's not complicate things...

White material is OK. I believe that most of us would paint and weather our own and white is a good place to start.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Jun 20, 2012, at 1:19 PM, MDelvec952@... wrote:


I'd vote for rail-shapes in various cross sections as well -- very useful when the rest of the structure is in styrene.

I'd also vote for molding the rail-shapes in a "rail brown" color.

....Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 20, 2012 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Shapes to come

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael

On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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jerryglow2
 

I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@...> wrote:

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael


On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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Yahoo! Groups Links
Bill Schneider
 

Thanks Jerry, I was wondering that myself!

For the few places on my layout that I needed rail shapes I used cut-off bits of rail. About the only place that I really could see a use for plastic rail would be for something like a gon load or similar. I also am missing the need for 36” sections which (as has been stated) would be a nightmare from a distribution standpoint. Assuming the gon load or scenic use, then wouldn’t 39 scale feet work better?

Bill Schneider

From: jerryglow@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:09 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: New Shapes to come


I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow

--- In mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@...> wrote:

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael


On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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Dennis Storzek
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Schneider" <bschneider424@...> wrote:
Assuming the gon load or scenic use, then wouldn’t 39 scale feet work better?

Bill Schneider

I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow
One of Ed's initial suggested uses was welded rail, either laid out along the ROW, or on a rail train. Actual drawn metal rail is much too stiff to lay on the ground like the prototype, and it certainly won't do for a welded rail train load. Styrene in that small a cross section likely would be limber enough that multiple lengths would bend around curves.

For both these uses long lengths would be advantageous, but desire must be tempered by manufacturing reality. If 24" is the longest length Evergreen can handle within their existing product line, it would still be usefull, and easily filed to splice with scarf joints.

Dennis
John Degnan <Scaler164@...>
 

Bill and Jerry,

The initial posting (if I'm remembering correctly) dealt with the possibilirty of modeling a "welded rail train"... which cannot be done with actual rail due to it's rigidity. There is also likelihood of cheaper cost when using it for something other than track.

This is just to mention a few of the possibilities and bebefits of such a product.


John Degnan
Scaler164@comcast.net
Scaler187@comcast.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Schneider
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 05:19 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: New Shapes to come


Thanks Jerry, I was wondering that myself!

For the few places on my layout that I needed rail shapes I used cut-off bits of rail. About the only place that I really could see a use for plastic rail would be for something like a gon load or similar. I also am missing the need for 36” sections which (as has been stated) would be a nightmare from a distribution standpoint. Assuming the gon load or scenic use, then wouldn’t 39 scale feet work better?

Bill Schneider

From: jerryglow@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:09 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: New Shapes to come


I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow

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Ed <nprybiged@...>
 

Jerry

I consided myself as the average modeler. So I want to build and
detail a track gane center with some out buildings and with one
or two piles of different sizes of rail and have a section of
mian line with sections of rail laying on both sides, that would
look impressive.

Now if I do this and use nickle silver rail that could very easily
be in double diget dollars. I would think twice before doing that
when I could, for the same amount, add a piece of rolling stock or
structure. Now for half that amount, using Styrene, I could do that
detail project.

It's my guess that's the same thought that the other average
modelers would have, but then I might wrong.

Thanks for your reply
Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, jerryglow@... wrote:

I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@> wrote:

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael


On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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Tim O'Connor
 

Jerry

One problem with real rail is WEIGHT. A gondola or flat that weighs
the NMRA recommended amount (or even more than that) becomes ridiculously
heavy with a full (realistic) load of nickel silver rail.

I think Sunshine made a resin rail load, for example.

Tim O'

At 6/20/2012 05:09 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?
Jerry Glow
James Babcock
 

I would have an interst in buying code 83 rail. How much is the question. I can think of several projects but the quantity of 6 piece package is great; just one per project.
Jim Babcock


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From: Ed <nprybiged@comcast.net>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [STMFC] New Shapes to come



 

All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem




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Bud Rindfleisch
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, James Babcock <babcockjames@...> wrote:

I would have an interst in buying code 83 rail. How much is the question. I can think of several projects but the quantity of 6 piece package is great; just one per project.
Jim Babcock


________________________________
From: Ed <nprybiged@...>
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [STMFC] New Shapes to come



 

All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Styrene rail can also be useful for those who handlay their track as bridge guardrails.
Bud Rindfleisch



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jerryglow2
 

I had the same situation when making a coil load of real soft iron wire. I made one wrap coils on the bottom layer and multiple wrap ones on top.

I just can't see any manufacturer making plastic rail esp in 3' lengths just for limited use like a rail train. We hobbiests love to suggest new products but lets get realistic unless you want to invest your life's savings.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Jerry

One problem with real rail is WEIGHT. A gondola or flat that weighs
the NMRA recommended amount (or even more than that) becomes ridiculously
heavy with a full (realistic) load of nickel silver rail.

I think Sunshine made a resin rail load, for example.

Tim O'



At 6/20/2012 05:09 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?
Jerry Glow
jerryglow2
 

I don't think you're going to find a specialized shape like rail much cheaper than nickel silver esp if you can salvage the rail from used track.

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <nprybiged@...> wrote:










Jerry

I consided myself as the average modeler. So I want to build and
detail a track gane center with some out buildings and with one
or two piles of different sizes of rail and have a section of
mian line with sections of rail laying on both sides, that would
look impressive.

Now if I do this and use nickle silver rail that could very easily
be in double diget dollars. I would think twice before doing that
when I could, for the same amount, add a piece of rolling stock or
structure. Now for half that amount, using Styrene, I could do that
detail project.

It's my guess that's the same thought that the other average
modelers would have, but then I might wrong.

Thanks for your reply
Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, jerryglow@ wrote:

I don't understand the need for it - what's wrong with real rail?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Michael Watnoski <freestatesystems1@> wrote:

Hi Ed, and All,

I would be interested in the code 83 and 55
in long lengths. This is a much needed item for
detailing many structures. It was often used for
making fences and hose racks, etc around shops.

Michael


On 6/20/2012 2:57 PM, Ed wrote:
All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem



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albyrno
 

A would use it to fill isolating gaps cut in rails for appearance and to make even flow of rail,I would prefer white plastic to best match ns rail,it would also be useful for guardrails in complex turnouts with multiple guard rails to avoid possible shorts and excessive number of isolating gaps and power feeds
 Alan
 


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From: Brian Ehni <behni@comcast.net>
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] New Shapes to come



 

If you make them to CODE, they are scale immaterial. He's only asking for
three sizes.

Thanks!
--

Brian P. Ehni

On 6/20/12 2:02 PM, "ronald parisi" <mailto:ronald.parisi%40gmail.com> wrote:

Group:

I think that asking them to model in all 3 scales might be excessive. I
would definitely
buy it in HO scale.

Ron parisi

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Ed <mailto:nprybiged%40comcast.net> wrote:

**


All

I'm going to go to Evergreen and ask them if they would consider
marketing Styrene Rail in HO, O and N scale in codes 100,83 and 55
in packages of 6, in 24" or 36" in lenght.

So, to give them a feeling of what the modelers thing about
buying something like this, would you please let me know what
your thoughts are?

Thank you
Ed Ursem







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