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Airbrush question
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Good Morning,
I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends. I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions. Regards Mark Stamm <mailto:mark@euphoriatt.com> mark@euphoriatt.com Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949
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Andy Sperandeo
Hi Mark,
I prefer the siphon bottle by a large margin. I may be just too clumsy to use the gravity cup without spilling, but I also like being able to screw a siphon cap onto the same bottle in which I store the paint mixture. I also use in-bottle screen filters. Good luck with your new airbrush, Andy
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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
Mark Stamm wrote:
I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends. I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions.Mark, I mostly use my airbrush for painting entire objects (cars, structures, sprues of details) and for that I use the bottle siphon. The advantage of the cup is making a small amount of a color for some specific use, so I use it less often. Even for weathering, when I use my double-action brush, I usually use the bottle siphon. But I have known skilled airbrush users who swear by the cup, so I think you may get opinions from that side too. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com Publishers of books on railroad history
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Nelson Moyer <ku0a@...>
I use either a Paasche single action or an Iwata double action airbrush,
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depending upon whether I'm using enamel, lacquer, or acrylic paints. I use both cup and bottles with the Paasche H Series, depending upon what I'm painting or weathering. If the job is small, the cup is convenient and easy to clean, but do filter the paint mix before loading the cup. For larger surface areas, 1 oz. bottles are my choice, and for track or really large applications, I use a 3 oz. bottle. I have H-1, H-3, and H-5 tips for the Paasche but for most painting, I use the H-3. For track or large structures, I use the H-5 tip. The H-1 is for weathering mixes with lots of thinner. The Iwata has a top feed cup built into the handle, and I use it for weathering and small painting jobs when I'm using acrylic paints. The Iwata cup has a pressure fitting lid with a hole in the middle to prevent spilling, but I never felt the need to use it. I try to mix the amount of paint I plan to use within a few days, so I don't have to store the spray mix very long. Acrylics are notorious for polymerization following air exposure, so filtering is a must. Enamel and lacquer paints are much more forgiving in that regard, and a few drops of thinner will bring them back to proper consistency. Mixing bottles from Paasche don't seal tightly, even with the gasket in place, so I cut 2 in. sq. pieces of wax paper to put over the top of the paint bottles before screwing on the lid to improve seal and protect the bottle threads from dried paint. Nelson Moyer
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark at Euphoriatt Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:16 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question Good Morning, I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends. I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions. Regards Mark Stamm <mailto:mark@euphoriatt.com <mailto:mark%40euphoriatt.com> > mark@euphoriatt.com <mailto:mark%40euphoriatt.com> Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949
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Jared Harper
I agree with Nelson although I would choose the Iwata double action. I have a new Paasche single action set in the box I will sell.
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Jared Harper Athens, GA
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Moyer" <ku0a@...> wrote:
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John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
I've been using my internal mix double action Paasche since around 1986 or
so with great results. Basic differences in design such as single or double action and internal of external mix can make fo some rather obvious differences in performance, most of the high quality brushes of similar design will perform quite similarly depending on the individual users personal likes. John Hagen From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JaredH Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: Airbrush question I agree with Nelson although I would choose the Iwata double action. I have a new Paasche single action set in the box I will sell. Jared Harper Athens, GA Reply to <mailto:harperandbrown@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20Airbrush%20question> sender | Reply to <mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Airbrush%20question> group | Reply <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyazAzOTFrBF9TAzk3MzU5N zE0BGdycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BG1zZ0lkAzExMDM2MQRzZWMDZnRyB HNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzNDM1MTMxNzk-?act=reply&messageNum=110361> via web post | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaXVtanVuBF9TAzk3MzU5N zE0BGdycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3Rpb WUDMTM0MzUxMzE3OQ--> Start a New Topic Messages in this topic <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/110355;_ylc=X3oDMTM4MmRmbXNhBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BG1zZ0lkAzExMDM2MQR zZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDM1MTMxNzkEdHBjSWQDMTEwMzU1> (5) Recent Activity: . <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYms2dGQyBF9TAzk3Mz U5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBH N0aW1lAzEzNDM1MTMxNzk-?o=6> New Members 2 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaWI0anBkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BG dycElkAzI1NTQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMT M0MzUxMzE3OQ--> Visit Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkamlpMjVjBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI1N TQ3NTMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTY5NzI1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzQzNTEzMTc5> Yahoo! Groups Switch to: <mailto:STMFC-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change%20Delivery%20Format :%20Traditional> Text-Only, <mailto:STMFC-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email%20Delivery:%20Digest> Daily Digest . <mailto:STMFC-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> Unsubscribe . <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Use . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=2554753/grpspId=1705169725/msgId =110361/stime=1343513179/nc1=4025338/nc2=3848627/nc3=4767086>
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Jack Burgess
Mark...
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I'm on the road and can't give you a lot of details but after 30+ years of using Badger double-action air brushes, I bought an Iwata gravity-feed brush a couple of years ago. I use only Floquil enamels and one of the advantages is that you don't need to dilute Floquil with this brush. Not to dump on Andy, but I have not had issues with the gravity feed. Send me any e-mail and I can give you a model number but it is great for an overall first coat of a freight car as well as weathering. Jack Burgess
On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:15 AM, "Mark at Euphoriatt" <mark@euphoriatt.com> wrote:
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Steve SANDIFER
For most car painting I use the cup. The only time I use the bottle is if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount. Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures.
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From: Mark at Euphoriatt To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush question Good Morning, I'm going to breakdown and buy and airbrush even though I just want to keep sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visiting friends. I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well as single and double action styles; that is not in question. My question is what do experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or a siphon-fed under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions. Regards Mark Stamm <mailto:mark@euphoriatt.com> mark@euphoriatt.com Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in 1949
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atsfnut <michaelEGross@...>
Hello, Friends!
My two cents: I've used the Paasche Model H single action, external mix brush since 1976, with excellent results. That being said, I recently acquired a Badger single-action internal mix brush (Model 200NH) and did some fine painting with Modelflex. Rarely do I keep large amounts of paint in bottles, as I like to vary "freight car reds" and Santa Fe Mineral Browns to avoid that "cookie cutter look." Many fine scale modelers swear by the gravity feed brushes, as it allows one to paint at lower pressures, which is particularly when it comes to fine weathering. I've not found a gravity feed necessary, but they have their place. Whatever brush you choose, get to know it. "Play" with it on an inexpensive swap meet model before painting your Sunshine kit. And do filter that paint, particularly if it is acrylic. Cheers! Michael GrossLa Cañada, CA --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...> wrote: if I have a large amount to paint of the same color, a large amount. Nearly everything I do is custom mixed, using eyedroppers for mixtures. ______________TX 77025, 713-667-9417 to keep sending Sunshine checks I need to be able to paint without visitingfriends. I have used brushes from several different manufacturers as well assingle and double action styles; that is not in question. My question iswhat do experienced people prefer an attached gravity-fed cup or asiphon-fed under-mount bottle? TIA for your opinions. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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ronald parisi
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I use a double action gravity feed brush. I have a few different size cups and find mixing small amounts of color especially for weathering a definite plus. My brushes are all Thayer & Chandler. I just had them all professionally refurbished. The only one they could not do because of lack of parts was a 1946 T&C model that I inherited in 1967 and had to stop using two years ago. Keep em clean, and any of them will give you years of service. And learn how to use it. Ron Parisi
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, atsfnut <michaelEGross@aol.com> wrote:
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Mark, Badger now makes an airbrush with a gravity cup that will swivel down
for a siphon feed by attaching a bottle. Can't recall, but Iwata may have one as well. I have Pashaa, Badger & Iwata airbrushes, single and double action. All are siphon feed, ie from the bottle. As I paint exclusively acrylics, I use the Iwata Revolution or Badger Antham 155, which have needle designs for Acrylics. I have heard folks who prefer the gravity feed vs siphon. Not sure you will get a clear answer. Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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