Accurail model list


Jared Harper
 

I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, Jared, there are two, at least, in the files area.



One of them is my inquiry into accurate prototypes for the various versions
of the Accurail 41' gon. Look in Files for Accurail 41' gon.xls



"spalso" started a list, apparently, titled "Prototypes for the HO Models?"
though that doesn't list an Accurail product.



Might be some others in there, but I know of those two.



Schuyler







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I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine
which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned
the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green


Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green

Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Gene <bierglaeser@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Don" <riverman_vt@...> wrote:

Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine
Don,
Thanks for adding the clarification.
Gene Green


jerryglow2
 

Has a similar article (or any) been done on the 6 panel car?

Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@..., "Gene" <bierglaeser@...> wrote:

Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars. These articles can be found at
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/model-train-magazine-index

Gene Green


Aley, Jeff A
 

Jared,

See messages 87336 (!!) 87355, and 87359:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87336
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87355
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/message/87359

Regards,

-Jeff


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Subject: [STMFC] Accurail model list



I thought someone on this list looked at the Accurail kits to determine which ones are prototypical with what paint and lettering schemes. I scanned the files but didn't see a list there. Is there such a list?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Bill Welch
 

This little set of parts is one of the best kept secrets in our hobby, the quality is equivalent of Cannon & Company. I keep waiting for kits #1001, #1002, #1003, ....

Bill Welch


Gene and all,

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a
1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 parts that you can find under the New England Rail Service listings in the Walthers catalog. The parts offered enable the modeler to convert the Accurail car into a fully accurate GTW car or a more "generic" 1 1/2 door car witout moving the stiffening brace cast onto the model, for those who are intimidated by such work. Certainly no one on this list! VBG It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.

Excuse my crass commercialism.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a 1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 part . . . It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.
But note that the section you cut out of the FIRST car to install the new door-and-a-half part, can THEN be used to modify that second car. So you CAN get two models done with the help of this nice door casting.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a 1 & 1/2 door boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 part . . . It also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the 1/2 door and other parts one might want.
But note that the section you cut out of the FIRST car to install the new door-and-a-half part, can THEN be used to modify that second car. So you CAN get two models done with the help of this nice door casting.

Hello Tony,

I hate to disillusion you as it appears you have never tried the Standard Car CO. #1000 kit. One of the nice features that was purposely designed into the kit is that you do NOT remove any large pieces of the Accurail carbody being modified. The parts of the #1000 kit drop right onto the Accurail carside. There are two choices available. With one the parts can be added and that is all there is to it, nothing to remove except molded on grabirons on the host carbody if you wish. The second choice, for a dead-on accurate set of doors for the GTW version that Richard's article addresses requires one to remove the stiffner angle on the door of the host car and replace it in the proper position with one from the kit. It is as simple as that with the two choices being offered for those who are intimidated by the thought of removing the molded on stiffner angle.

Incidentally, if someone can find a prototype for the Accurail car with steel doors in the 1 & 1/2 door configuration perhaps Bill Welch will have his Kit #1001. Thanks Bill!

Hope this clarifies things, Don Valentine


O Fenton Wells
 

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Don <riverman_vt@...> wrote:

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--- In STMFC@..., Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

The second part of Richard's article, in the April 1993 issue of RMJ
was actually on how to convert on of the Accurail cars into a 1 & 1/2 door
boxcar. It was the inspiration for the Standard Car Co. #1000 part . . . It
also save the cost of chopping up a second car from which to fashion the
1/2 door and other parts one might want.

But note that the section you cut out of the FIRST car to install the
new door-and-a-half part, can THEN be used to modify that second car. So
you CAN get two models done with the help of this nice door casting.

Hello Tony,

I hate to disillusion you as it appears you have never tried the Standard
Car CO. #1000 kit. One of the nice features that was purposely designed
into the kit is that you do NOT remove any large pieces of the Accurail
carbody being modified. The parts of the #1000 kit drop right onto the
Accurail carside. There are two choices available. With one the parts can
be added and that is all there is to it, nothing to remove except molded on
grabirons on the host carbody if you wish. The second choice, for a dead-on
accurate set of doors for the GTW version that Richard's article addresses
requires one to remove the stiffner angle on the door of the host car and
replace it in the proper position with one from the kit. It is as simple as
that with the two choices being offered for those who are intimidated by
the thought of removing the molded on stiffner angle.

Incidentally, if someone can find a prototype for the Accurail car with
steel doors in the 1 & 1/2 door configuration perhaps Bill Welch will have
his Kit #1001. Thanks Bill!

Hope this clarifies things, Don Valentine




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Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
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Tim O'Connor
 

Fenton

It's getting increasingly difficult to find detail parts. I've occasionally seen the SCC parts
at train shows at dealers who set out boxes of miscellaneous stuff, usually seen in conjunction
with Don's heavyweight passenger car details. The doors are very nicely made.

Tim O'Connor

----- Original Message -----
From: "O Fenton Wells" <srrfan1401@...>

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells


O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Tim, I'll be on the lookout.
Fenton Wells

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:18 AM, <timboconnor@...> wrote:

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Fenton

It's getting increasingly difficult to find detail parts. I've
occasionally seen the SCC parts
at train shows at dealers who set out boxes of miscellaneous stuff,
usually seen in conjunction
with Don's heavyweight passenger car details. The doors are very nicely
made.

Tim O'Connor

----- Original Message -----
From: "O Fenton Wells" <srrfan1401@...>

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells






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3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
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Tom Madden
 

Here's the Walthers link:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/529-1000

I believe Standard Car Co. is a branch of New England Rail Service. Don Valentine (Mr. N.E.R.S.) is the one who brought these nice parts to our attention earlier in the thread.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@..., O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Don Valentine wrote:
Hello Tony,
I hate to disillusion you as it appears you have never tried the Standard Car CO. #1000 kit. One of the nice features that was purposely designed into the kit is that you do NOT remove any large pieces of the Accurail carbody being modified. The parts of the #1000 kit drop right onto the Accurail carside.
You're right, Don, I didn't know that. I have one of the nice castings that Richard Hendrickson made for the GTW car, and it is intended to be dropped into the cut-out car side. But I didn't mind, as I am in the middle of a second bash of that Accurail car, to do the 10-foot door needed for the SP's Shasta Water cars. That conversion happily uses part of the door removed from the first car.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Tom, Looks like they will be, like the NERS stuff not available.
Hopefully some one will buy the dies from Don so more can be made. Luckily
I have lots of the passenger stuff but don't have these.
fenton wells

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM, pullmanboss <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

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Here's the Walthers link:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/529-1000

I believe Standard Car Co. is a branch of New England Rail Service. Don
Valentine (Mr. N.E.R.S.) is the one who brought these nice parts to our
attention earlier in the thread.

Tom Madden

--- In STMFC@..., O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells



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3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
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Kenneth Montero
 

Fenton,

Walters catalog (HO) lists the part under New England Rail Service.

Ken Montero

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Fenton

It's getting increasingly difficult to find detail parts. I've occasionally seen the SCC parts
at train shows at dealers who set out boxes of miscellaneous stuff, usually seen in conjunction
with Don's heavyweight passenger car details. The doors are very nicely made.

Tim O'Connor

----- Original Message -----
From: "O Fenton Wells" < srrfan1401@... >

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells

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O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Ken, I appreciate that, but it says they are out of stock and don't
know when they will be in stock. I have other things on order from
Walthers that I will probably never see. I don't think NERS is still in
business but I'm not sure. If someone knows please post an answer to the
NERS question.
Fenton Wells
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:40 PM, <va661midlo@...> wrote:

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Fenton,

Walters catalog (HO) lists the part under New England Rail Service.

Ken Montero

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From: timboconnor@...
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:18:31 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Accurail model list

Fenton

It's getting increasingly difficult to find detail parts. I've
occasionally seen the SCC parts
at train shows at dealers who set out boxes of miscellaneous stuff,
usually seen in conjunction
with Don's heavyweight passenger car details. The doors are very nicely
made.

Tim O'Connor

----- Original Message -----
From: "O Fenton Wells" < srrfan1401@... >

Where does one find these Standard Car Co. parts? I did a quick google
search and could find nothing. One site shows thema s part of Palace Car
Co. but a visit to that site did not show these parts. Help please
Fenton Wells

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3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...


Ray Breyer
 

Thanks Ken, I appreciate that, but it says they are out of stock and don't
know when they will be in stock.  I have other things on order from
Walthers that I will probably never see.  I don't think NERS is still in
business but I'm not sure.  If someone knows please post an answer to the
NERS question.
Fenton Wells
 
This is why I'm preserving my last set of these doors in amber, and will eventually cast up a few extra sets in resin for my own fleet needs. They're hugely handy parts to have around, and it's a shame that they're no longer available and likely won't EVER be again.
 
Unless we can convince Don Tichy that a wood half door to match his Camel door would be a handy thing to add to the catalog!
 
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

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O Fenton Wells
 

I understand, and when you do cast some let me kow and I will buy a set,
unless Dennis beats you to it.
Fenton Wells

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...> wrote:

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Thanks Ken, I appreciate that, but it says they are out of stock and
don't
know when they will be in stock. I have other things on order from
Walthers that I will probably never see. I don't think NERS is still in
business but I'm not sure. If someone knows please post an answer to the
NERS question.
Fenton Wells

This is why I'm preserving my last set of these doors in amber, and will
eventually cast up a few extra sets in resin for my own fleet needs.
They're hugely handy parts to have around, and it's a shame that they're no
longer available and likely won't EVER be again.

Unless we can convince Don Tichy that a wood half door to match his Camel
door would be a handy thing to add to the catalog!

Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL






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Fenton Wells
3047 Creek Run
Sanford NC 27332
919-499-5545
srrfan1401@...