I have a question on New Haven's 36 Foot Re built box cars. Of the quantity that were rebuilt in the late 1920's, were there more cars with the Re enforced Wood ends or with the Steel Dreadnaught ends re-built? When scrapping began after WW II, were the Wood end cars scrapped first or both Wood ended and Dreadnaught ended cars scrapped together? I am assuming that these cars were all gone from any revenue service use, by 1953 since I read that there were only 41 cars left in 1950 and none that received AB brakes?

Thanks,

Eric Thur

It just so happens that I'm in the middle building these now using the new F&C kits - one each of the steel end & wood reinforced end.

I don't know the answers to your questions offhand, but should be able to help once I get back to my reference material tonight.

In the meantime, in case you didn't already know, Mainline Modeler did a two-part series on these cars in July and September, 1988.

Chris

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I have a question on New Haven's 36 Foot Re built box cars. Of the quantity that were rebuilt in the late 1920's, were there more cars with the Re enforced Wood ends or with the Steel Dreadnaught ends re-built? When scrapping began after WW II, were the Wood end cars scrapped first or both Wood ended and Dreadnaught ended cars scrapped together? I am assuming that these cars were all gone from any revenue service use, by 1953 since I read that there were only 41 cars left in 1950 and none that received AB brakes?

Thanks,

Eric Thur

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Basically I wanted to know which version was more common, The wood End or Steel end toward the end late 1940's? I am building the same two kits, but want to keep the more common version.

Eric,

This excerpt is from page 37 of July 1988 MM (Barkan and Nehrich):

"With its cast-steel trucks and Dreadnaught end, car 69505 typifies the appearance of these cars as they entered their final decade of service. In 1940, just one year before arrival of the first large order of all-steel cars on the property, roughly 8000 composite box cars were in service for the New Haven. Almost all of them were of this type...

...Although some of the composite-end cars probably received new trucks, all of the clear photos we have seen are of cars equipped with Dreadnaught ends. It seems reasonable to suppose that, when choosing cars to receive the new trucks, the New Haven might have given preference to those equipped with the more modern Dreadnaught ends."


If you credit their supposition, it would seem the steel end was the more common version in the late 40s.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler

Charles,

That is kinda what I thought, but was not sure.
Thanks for the information. I appreciate it .

Eric Thur



--- In STMFC@..., "Charles Hostetler" <cesicjh@> wrote:

--- In STMFC@..., "erict1361" <erict1361@> wrote:

Basically I wanted to know which version was more common, The wood End or Steel end toward the end late 1940's? I am building the same two kits, but want to keep the more common version.

Eric,

This excerpt is from page 37 of July 1988 MM (Barkan and Nehrich):

"With its cast-steel trucks and Dreadnaught end, car 69505 typifies the appearance of these cars as they entered their final decade of service. In 1940, just one year before arrival of the first large order of all-steel cars on the property, roughly 8000 composite box cars were in service for the New Haven. Almost all of them were of this type...

...Although some of the composite-end cars probably received new trucks, all of the clear photos we have seen are of cars equipped with Dreadnaught ends. It seems reasonable to suppose that, when choosing cars to receive the new trucks, the New Haven might have given preference to those equipped with the more modern Dreadnaught ends."


If you credit their supposition, it would seem the steel end was the more common version in the late 40s.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler

Good afternoon!

     Could someone provide images of these 36' boxcars?  Are there any drawings of these cars?  Would like to build one in Scale S.

Thanks,

Bob McCarthy



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--- In STMFC@..., "erict1361" <erict1361@> wrote:

Basically I wanted to know which version was more common, The wood End or Steel end toward the end late 1940's? I am building the same two kits, but want to keep the more common version.

Eric,

This excerpt is from page 37 of July 1988 MM (Barkan and Nehrich):

"With its cast-steel trucks and Dreadnaught end, car 69505 typifies the appearance of these cars as they entered their final decade of service. In 1940, just one year before arrival of the first large order of all-steel cars on the property, roughly 8000 composite box cars were in service for the New Haven. Almost all of them were of this type...

...Although some of the composite-end cars probably received new trucks, all of the clear photos we have seen are of cars equipped with Dreadnaught ends. It seems reasonable to suppose that, when choosing cars to receive the new trucks, the New Haven might have given preference to those equipped with the more modern Dreadnaught ends."

If you credit their supposition, it would seem the steel end was the more common version in the late 40s.

Regards,

Charles Hostetler




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