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W&LE steel gondolas of 1921 - more images
Eric Hansmann
As the W&LE gondola questions have stirred some interest, I've posted images
of two additional Wheeling steel gondolas from the 52000-53899 series. These were built in 1921 by Standard Steel. The W&LE also received 100 of the same cars in the R6000-R6099 series. I have not seen any images of these gondolas, but I suspect they may have been in captured service. These two images were taken from a larger image noted as Berger Switch br 0.48. The image is from the W&LE archives in the special collections of the Michael Schwartz Library at Cleveland State University in Cleveland, Ohio. I scanned a number of images at a high resolution and was able to tweak these pull-outs for more clarity. I believe the image documents the bridge, but I'm more interested in the five gondolas sitting there. Four seem to be from the W&LE 52000-53899 series, while one is a USRA composite gondola from the W&LE 51000-51999 series. Here's the original image: http://www.hansmanns.org/images/berger_switch_br_0.48.jpg The image is undated, but the barest of reweigh dates can be detected on the USRA gondola. It seems to be a 1929 date, which would mean all the easily identified freight cars here would be about ten years old. Here are close ups of two W&LE steel gondolas in the image. http://www.hansmanns.org/images/wle_52959_GK_berger-switch.jpg http://www.hansmanns.org/images/wle_53245_GK_berger-switch.jpg Two other similar gondolas sit at each end of the image, but a full car number is difficult to determine on the far right gondola. In any event, here is a string of well used freight cars with original lettering that can hardly be read. The steel gondolas seem to have lost much of their paint since coming into service. I suspect later gondolas acquired by the W&LE would endure a similar loss of paint, so these images may offer some guidance. Eric Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX |
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Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Eric and List Members,
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Thanks for the wonderful image you posted. This is of interest to me on two fronts - in N scale there is an existing model that is a good starting point for the W&LE 52000-53899 series, and there is a commercially available model of the USRA composite gondola W&LE 51000-51999 series as well. Can anyone say, have the sides of the USRA gon in the photo been upgraded to steel sides? It looks like that might be the case, but difficult to say with certainty by just looking at the photo. Did the W&LE do such side replacements on their USRA gons? Some roads certainly did... PRR as one example. - Claus Schlund ----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hansmann" <eric@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 11:23 AM Subject: [STMFC] W&LE steel gondolas of 1921 - more images As the W&LE gondola questions have stirred some interest, I've posted images |
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Ray Breyer
Hi Eric and List Members,
Thanks for the wonderful image you posted. This is of interest to me on two fronts - in N scale there is an existing model that is a good starting point for the W&LE 52000-53899 series, and there is a commercially available model of the USRA composite gondola W&LE 51000-51999 series as well. Can anyone say, have the sides of the USRA gon in the photo been upgraded to steel sides? It looks like that might be the case, but difficult to say with certainty by just looking at the photo. Did the W&LE do such side replacements on their USRA gons? Some roads certainly did... PRR as one example. Claus Schlund Hi Claus, Eric and I have discussed these Wheeling USRA gons in the past. I don't have my notes handy, but most of the cars WERE rebuilt to all steel sides. Some, likely the first cars so rebuilt, simply had the wood replaced with steel, and the diagonals left intact. Others had the diagonals removed. To date neither of us have been able to find much logic as to which cars were converted in what way, or exactly when. That's good news for modelers though: just do whatever you like! Regards, Ray Breyer Elgin, IL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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