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Thomas Baker
Over the past several years, we have lost a number of photographers and/or collectors of photos and negatives. Does anyone know what has become of the collections of the following:
1. John Hummeston [I'm not sure of the spelling, but I understand he had a signficiant number of photos and negatives.] 2. Robert Malinoski from the Pittsburgh area. I'm not sure about the spelling there either, but he also took many photos and slides. 3. Bill Raia purchased many photo and negative collections from others and was a great source of prototypical information. What has happened to his collection? Tom ________________________________________ |
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water.kresse@...
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you have lost Michigan State U Prof Eugene Huddleston (whose collections are "slowly" going to the C&O Historical Society for scanning and originals are then going to the Bentley Library U of Michigan Transportation Library in Ann Arbor) and you have, from train show vendor table conversations a few years ago, the collection s of Bob Lorenz that are in a "limbo" situation where Bob has changed his interests from developing and printing from negatives towards oil painting. Al Kresse Romeo, Michigan ----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Baker" <bakert@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:51:33 PM Subject: [STMFC] RE: Photo and negative collections Over the past several years, we have lost a number of photographers and/or collectors of photos and negatives. Does anyone know what has become of the collections of the following: 1. John Hummeston [I'm not sure of the spelling, but I understand he had a signficiant number of photos and negatives.] 2. Robert Malinoski from the Pittsburgh area. I'm not sure about the spelling there either, but he also took many photos and slides. 3. Bill Raia purchased many photo and negative collections from others and was a great source of prototypical information. What has happened to his collection? Tom ________________________________________ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@..., Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:
I'm afraid it's just a bit too soon to be troubling the Raia family with this question. I do know Bill has a son, Mike Raia; I don't know how much of a fan he is, but he is certainly aware of the value of his dad's collection. Bill was reasonably active with the Mid-Continent Railway Museum, and on very good terms with the Soo Line Historical & Technical Society and their archivist, Larry Easton. I don't yet know how this is going to resolve, but I am sure the collections won't be lost. Dennis Storzek |
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Bill Welch
Which is precisely why I have pleaded with Mike Gruber and Jay Williams to contact Mr. Lorenz and to explore the possibility of renting his negatives. I have done this for three years or more now and everytime I see them they kind of shuffle and apologize but still no action, hence my urging a few weeks ago to people on this list to make a similar request to Messrs. Gruber and Williams. Maybe if they understand there is some demand they will contact him. Anyone follow through yet?
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Bill Welch you have, from train show vendor table conversations a few years ago, the collection s of Bob Lorenz that are in a "limbo" situation where Bob has changed his interests from developing and printing from negatives towards oil painting. |
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Thomas Baker
Dennis,
Thanks for your reply. I only asked because I would hate to see such a valuable collection as Bill's parted out to a variety of individuals who would probably hord their stash. I had not intention of pestering the Raia family and frankly have no resources to come close to covering the cost of such an enormous collection. Tom ________________________________________ From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of soolinehistory [destorzek@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:39 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo and negative collections --- In STMFC@..., Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote: I'm afraid it's just a bit too soon to be troubling the Raia family with this question. I do know Bill has a son, Mike Raia; I don't know how much of a fan he is, but he is certainly aware of the value of his dad's collection. Bill was reasonably active with the Mid-Continent Railway Museum, and on very good terms with the Soo Line Historical & Technical Society and their archivist, Larry Easton. I don't yet know how this is going to resolve, but I am sure the collections won't be lost. Dennis Storzek ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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tedander2000
For those disposing of their car photo collections, perhaps it is wise to consider either donating to a friend or donating to a railroad archive during one's lifetime or making it mandatory in one's last will and testament. There are a number of archives: for an example of western roads, consider the California State Railroad Museum, who have a full time department and head archivist. For the Midwest there are a number of archives with controlled temperature and humidity. Some private electric car photo collections have passed on through the auspices of CERA and are appearing in their's and other's publications. At the IRM's Pullman Library, we are in the final stages of obtaining about 400 Pullman glass plate negatives, mostly passenger car interiors. Additional scanned and copied material is available, including builder's prints of the freight car correspondence from the new storage facility containing P-S freight lot files 8000 through the 9000's and lastly end of production 1000's. In the photo collection, a donation of rail car photographs and negatives is always welcome that they may be available to our succeeding generations. There will always be collectors, but not necessarily availability of prints or scans for future collectors. We will exchange high resolution digital scans and ink jet prints in exchange for donated originals, that at present will retain the photographic copyright and will allow us to assure they can be copied without restriction. We do honor the copyright held on Osgood Bradley negatives held at the Worcester Historical Society even though we too hold O. B. Builder's Prints and will not print copies unless notified that they cannot supply them, likewise for the Smithsonian Pullman negative collection.
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Sincerely, Ted Anderson, IRM Pullman Library curator --- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:
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Steve SANDIFER
To the list of Archives, I add the NMRA library which is scanning their
materials and making them available on line (http://www.nmra.org/ )and the Temple Railroad and Heritage Museum in Temple, Texas, which host the Santa Fe Society Archives along with a very substantial collection from other lives. It is the premium site in Texas with full time archivist and easy to work with research staff. http://www.rrhm.org/ ______________________________________________ J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer mailto:steve.sandifer@... Home: 12027 Mulholland Drive, Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918 Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417 From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of tedander2000 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:45 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo and negative collections For those disposing of their car photo collections, perhaps it is wise to consider either donating to a friend or donating to a railroad archive during one's lifetime or making it mandatory in one's last will and testament. There are a number of archives: for an example of western roads, consider the California State Railroad Museum, who have a full time department and head archivist. For the Midwest there are a number of archives with controlled temperature and humidity. Some private electric car photo collections have passed on through the auspices of CERA and are appearing in their's and other's publications. At the IRM's Pullman Library, we are in the final stages of obtaining about 400 Pullman glass plate negatives, mostly passenger car interiors. Additional scanned and copied material is available, including builder's prints of the freight car correspondence from the new storage facility containing P-S freight lot files 8000 through the 9000's and lastly end of production 1000's. In the photo collection, a donation of rail car photographs and negatives is always welcome that they may be available to our succeeding generations. There will always be collectors, but not necessarily availability of prints or scans for future collectors. We will exchange high resolution digital scans and ink jet prints in exchange for donated originals, that at present will retain the photographic copyright and will allow us to assure they can be copied without restriction. We do honor the copyright held on Osgood Bradley negatives held at the Worcester Historical Society even though we too hold O. B. Builder's Prints and will not print copies unless notified that they cannot supply them, likewise for the Smithsonian Pullman negative collection. Sincerely, Ted Anderson, IRM Pullman Library curator --- In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote: contact Mr. Lorenz and to explore the possibility of renting his negatives. I have done this for three years or more now and everytime I see them they kind of shuffle and apologize but still no action, hence my urging a few weeks ago to people on this list to make a similar request to Messrs. Gruber and Williams. Maybe if they understand there is some demand they will contact him. Anyone follow through yet? the collection s of Bob Lorenz that are in a "limbo" situation where Bob has changed his interests from developing and printing from negatives towards oil painting. and/or collectors of photos and negatives.  Does anyone know what has become of the collections of the following: a signficiant number of photos and negatives.] spelling there either, but he also took many photos and slides. and was a great source of prototypical information.  What has happened to his collection?
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Bill Welch
I agree about the NMRA collection although mysteriously, the online photos seem to be shrinking in number. When I first discovered this resource about a year ago, most of the Bob Charles Collection was viewable. Now only a few RR reporting marks are viewable. I have alerted Brent at the Library but I just looked and still only a few of the some 400+ plus photos can be seen from this collection. I hope this will get fixed.
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Bill Welch --- In STMFC@..., "Steve Sandifer" <steve.sandifer@...> wrote:
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John Barry
Unfortunately the needs of the surviving family to cover medical expenses or the wants of non-preservation minded heirs to make a fast buck often trump the desires of the departed photographer/collector. The only way to be 100% certain that your wishes will be followed is to do it while you are alive with a sound mind. Too many squabbling siblings have "disappeared" valuable items from mom or dad's estate while they were in custodial care with dementia or before the will could be implemented after they passed. It is not common, but sometimes happens. Greed has a nasty habit of bringing out the worst in some folks in whom you least expect it.
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John Barry --- In STMFC@..., Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:
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wlhoss@...
Out of curiosity, who's still buying negative collections these days.
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billsoman
And the PNRA (Pacific Northwest Railroad Archive) for Northwest roads, a joint venture of multiple railroad historical societies. The member societies generally accept and accession the donations, with some exceptions.
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http://pnrarchive.org http://www.gn-npjointarchive.org --- Bill Sornsin, Seattle --- In STMFC@..., "tedander2000" <tedander@...> wrote:
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railsnw@frontier.com <railsnw@...>
I do if I get a chance. Recently picked up nearly 1,000 medium format B&W negs of electric railways in the US, Canada, and UK. A number were of freight motors and in some cases freight cars.
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Richard Wilkens --- In STMFC@..., wlhoss@... wrote:
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John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
I don't know for sure who is still buying negative collections these days, but I do know that I am not. The reason: no money.
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John C. La Rue, Jr. Bonita Springs, FL -----Original Message-----
From: wlhoss <wlhoss@...> To: STMFC <STMFC@...> Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Photo and negative collections Out of curiosity, who's still buying negative collections these days. Bill Hoss [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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arrphoto <arrphoto@...>
I've always wondered what happened to the Charlie Felstad (sp?) collection.
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Curt Fortenberry --- In STMFC@..., water.kresse@... wrote:
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william darnaby
Charlie's collection went to Bill Raia after Charlie died and Bill listed
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them along with his own. Bill Darnaby -----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of arrphoto Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:03 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Photo and negative collections I've always wondered what happened to the Charlie Felstad (sp?) collection. Curt Fortenberry |
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