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Need a suggestion for a specific boxcar
Bob McCarthy
Good evening!
Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
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Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
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Staffan Ehnbom <staffan.ehnbom@...>
S-scale? Other?
Staffan Ehnbom
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From: Bob McCarthy
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:41 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Need a suggestion for a specific boxcar
Good evening!
Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
From: Bob McCarthy
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 4:41 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Need a suggestion for a specific boxcar
Good evening!
Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
Ray Breyer
Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
Hi Bob,
At first glance this sounded like any of several thousand NYC Lines boxcars built before WWI. But there's a small problem. Nominally, a 7/7 corrugated end will only give you an inside height in the 8' 4" to 8' 8" range. I just reviewed NKP, NYC, and Rutland car diagrams as well as the 1916 and 1922 CBDs, and they all agree on this point.
So you'll either have to lower your car height rquirements or change your end requirements!
As for plans, check pages 286 through 290 in the 1916 Car Builder's Dictionary. They might give you everything you're looking for.
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
Bob McCarthy
Ray,
Appreciate your comments. Could also build the boxcar as a 8' IH with 6' door. Suggestions? Would be interested in doing a NYC or relate rr boxcar. Suggestions. We can use another type end. What did the NYC use, images plans?
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
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From: Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...>
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Need a suggestion for a specific boxcar
Hi Bob,
At first glance this sounded like any of several thousand NYC Lines boxcars built before WWI. But there's a small problem. Nominally, a 7/7 corrugated end will only give you an inside height in the 8' 4" to 8' 8" range. I just reviewed NKP, NYC, and Rutland car diagrams as well as the 1916 and 1922 CBDs, and they all agree on this point.
So you'll either have to lower your car height rquirements or change your end requirements!
As for plans, check pages 286 through 290 in the 1916 Car Builder's Dictionary. They might give you everything you're looking for.
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
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Appreciate your comments. Could also build the boxcar as a 8' IH with 6' door. Suggestions? Would be interested in doing a NYC or relate rr boxcar. Suggestions. We can use another type end. What did the NYC use, images plans?
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
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From: Ray Breyer <rtbsvrr69@...>
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Need a suggestion for a specific boxcar
Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads.
Please send suggestions with an image and/or question about the project off list.
Thanks,
Bob McCarthy
Hi Bob,
At first glance this sounded like any of several thousand NYC Lines boxcars built before WWI. But there's a small problem. Nominally, a 7/7 corrugated end will only give you an inside height in the 8' 4" to 8' 8" range. I just reviewed NKP, NYC, and Rutland car diagrams as well as the 1916 and 1922 CBDs, and they all agree on this point.
So you'll either have to lower your car height rquirements or change your end requirements!
As for plans, check pages 286 through 290 in the 1916 Car Builder's Dictionary. They might give you everything you're looking for.
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
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Bruce Bogart
Wood sides??? What make of roof? I would like a couple of NKP 10000-10999 cars. This is in S scale right Bob??? In facxt I would be good with several cars considering cabooses were later made from these cars too.
Bruce Bogart
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Bob McCarthy wrote:
"Am interested in starting a project building a 10' IH 40' DS 7/7 fishbelly
DD boxcar. Am looking for candidates to model from various railroads."
7/7 what? Murphy ends?
Ben Hom
Ray Breyer
Wood sides??? What make of roof? I would like a couple of NKP 10000-10999 cars. This is in S scale right Bob???
In fact I would be good with several cars considering cabooses were later made from these cars too.
Bruce Bogart
Hi Bruce,
The NKP 10000's were 38 foot cars with 7/7 INWARD ribs and an 8' 4" IH, so are a little smaller all around than what Bob's thinking of. They also had Chicago-Cleveland roofs, which would be a bit advanced for a wood kit (but not impossible).
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
Bruce Bogart
OK Ray I'll scratch that request. But do tell where can I see an example of the Chicago-Cleveland roofs?? Thanks !
Bruce Bogart
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>>Wood sides??? What make of roof? I would like a couple of NKP 10000-10999 cars. This is in S scale right Bob???In fact I would be good with several cars considering cabooses were later made from these cars too.
Bruce Bogart
Hi Bruce,
The NKP 10000's were 38 foot cars with 7/7 INWARD ribs and an 8' 4" IH, so are a little smaller all around than what Bob's thinking of. They also had Chicago-Cleveland roofs, which would be a bit advanced for a wood kit (but not impossible).
Regards,
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL