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Michael Watnoski
Greetings,
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For an even milder abrasive, try toothpaste. The white paste will leave a extremely fine satin finish. Michael On 11/5/2012 10:42 AM, Alan wrote:
Bon ami is much less abrasive,I had bathroom basin and counter top that installer/manu. said not to use comet/ajax as it would leave small surface scratches the bon ami wouldn't,they were right I tried comet on small unseen area and it slightly scratched/dulled surface. |
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albyrno
Bon ami is much less abrasive,I had bathroom basin and counter top that installer/manu. said not to use comet/ajax as it would leave small surface scratches the bon ami wouldn't,they were right I tried comet on small unseen area and it slightly scratched/dulled surface.
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Alan --- In STMFC@..., "Schuyler.larrabee" <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:
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Andy Sperandeo
Hi Schuyler,
It's the same stuff, but it's no longer sold as "plain ol' Future." You have to look for Pledge with Future to buy it today. So long, Andy |
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Andy Sperandeo
Hi Jared,
No, with my Badger 200 I can airbrush the Pledge with Future floor wax straight from the bottle at about 40 psi. (In general I've found that acrylics work better with higher spray pressures.) I apply light coats, and don't mind using two or three light coats to get a good level of gloss. So long, Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Schuyler Larrabee
Yes, but Comet’s abrasive particles are larger and harder than Bon Ami. The Bon Ami slogan “Hasn’t scratched yet” has a basis in reality. You can get a near polished finish on metals with Bon Ami which will turn out more on the order of a “brushed” finish with Comet.
Schuyler I hear Comet brand or equivalent does not contain any such skin softener. Alan Gilchrist -- Modeling Canadian Pacific in the 1950's in Southern B.C. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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cprfan
On 11/2/2012 1:45 PM, cepropst@q.com wrote:
I bought two F&C kits at Naperville. Just painted one and am ready to prep the other.Maybe you used the wrong detergent..., I think most household cleaning detergents like Dawn also contain Lanolin, a skin softener, which also keeps the boxcar nice and sof...err, well oily. I hear Comet brand or equivalent does not contain any such skin softener. Alan -- Modeling Canadian Pacific in the 1950's in Southern B.C. |
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Jared Harper
Andy,
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Do you thin your Future in any way? Jared Harper Athens, GA --- In STMFC@..., Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...> wrote:
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Benjamin Hom
Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
"Uh, 'Pledge with Future?' Is this different than plain ol' Future?" Same thing - it's just the name that it's currently sold under. Ben Hom |
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Schuyler Larrabee
Uh, "Pledge with Future?" Is this different than plain ol' Future?
Schuyler From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Andy Sperandeo Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:15 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Paint prep Hi Clark, I too just built a couple of F&C kits that I bought at Naperville. I washed the assembled cars in warm water with Ivory liquid dish detergent. After letting them air dry I airbrushed them with Polly Scale paint. They've had overnight to dry and I expect to reassemble them (trucks, couplers, uncoupling levers) this morning. Then I'll give them an airbrush coat of Pledge with Future for a gloss finish to accept the decals. So long, Andy |
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James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
I have never thinned the Future...just use direct from the bottle.
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Jim Brewer Glenwood MD ----- Original Message -----
From: "JaredH" <harperandbrown@...> To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 12:01:04 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Paint prep Andy, Do you thin your Future in any way? Jared Harper Athens, GA --- In STMFC@... , Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...> wrote:
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Jared Harper
Andy,
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Do you thin your Future in any way? Jared Harper Athens, GA --- In STMFC@..., Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...> wrote:
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Andy Sperandeo
Hi Clark,
I too just built a couple of F&C kits that I bought at Naperville. I washed the assembled cars in warm water with Ivory liquid dish detergent. After letting them air dry I airbrushed them with Polly Scale paint. They've had overnight to dry and I expect to reassemble them (trucks, couplers, uncoupling levers) this morning. Then I'll give them an airbrush coat of Pledge with Future for a gloss finish to accept the decals. So long, Andy |
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arved_grass
Agreed. From F&C's FAQ:
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"Are there any special instructions for painting the kits? "Any brand of high-quality model paint is good and the model should not be primed before painting. We use floquil or Scale-coat on most of the models. The most important thing to do is to wash the model thoroughly before painting. We use a good degreaser (Ex. "Dawn" dish detergent, "Shout" Laundry pre-treater), scub the model well with plenty of water. Rinse the model well and when you think all of the detergent is off rinse it again. Allow to dry in a dust free location. (I use my china closet. Who really uses it anyway?)" Talking with the owner at Cocoa Beach earlier this year, he (and his wife - both) were emphatic about the use of Shout. "It's the best degreaser we've found." Arved Grass Fleming Island, Florida --- In STMFC@..., "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
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Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
Clark,
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I use "Shout" the prewash stain lifter and wash all castings before assembly. Get's the mold release out of there. Needs more rinsing than "Dawn", but cuts through most mold release agents. Pierre Oliver --- In STMFC@..., <cepropst@...> wrote:
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heitkamp80015
Clark,
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Years ago when I produced resin kits, I recommended that the parts be scrubbed using a toothbrush and Ajax or Comet. The powdered cleaners seem to do a great job of removing mold release and/or oils left from your hands. Just be careful around the small details but don't be afraid to scrub fairly aggressively. Many of the liquid soaps have ingredients in them to soften your skin - not good for models. Doug Heitkamp Centennial, CO --- In STMFC@..., <cepropst@...> wrote:
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Clark Propst
--- In STMFC@..., "Bruce F. Smith" <smithbf@...> wrote:
Don't own such a thing. I'm assuming that the wash was just prior to painting?Day or two before painting and that you handled the model with gloves after it was washed?What! of course not : )) When I heavily apply acrylic paint that is too thin I can see this effect.Only use Floquil Thanks Bruce, Clark Propst |
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Clark,
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Dawn and a tooth brush... <VBG> I'm not sure why this did not work on this one model. Did you grit blast it? I usually do, and then wash it. Although I've been told this supposedly "drives the mold release into the resin" I've never had an issue. I also never wash before assembly although some folks swear by that too. Additionally, if your water quality is not good and you left pooled water on the roof to dry that might be an issue. I'm assuming that the wash was just prior to painting? and that you handled the model with gloves after it was washed? Finally, paint technique might be an issue. When I heavily apply acrylic paint that is too thin I can see this effect. Regards Bruce Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield." __ / \ __<+--+>________________\__/___ ________________________________ |- ______/ O O \_______ -| | __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ | | / 4999 PENNSYLVANIA 4999 \ | ||__||__||__||__||__||__||__||__|| |/_____________________________\|_|________________________________| | O--O \0 0 0 0/ O--O | 0-0-0 0-0-0 On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, <cepropst@q.com<mailto:cepropst@q.com>>
wrote: I bought two F&C kits at Naperville. Just painted one and am ready to prep the other. I cleaned the first one with dawn detergent on a tooth brush. Still had some fish eyeing on the roof. What should I have used to prep this F&C model for painting? Clark Propst Mason City Iowa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Clark Propst
I bought two F&C kits at Naperville. Just painted one and am ready to prep the other.
I cleaned the first one with dawn detergent on a tooth brush. Still had some “fish eyeing” on the roof. What should I have used to prep this F&C model for painting? Clark Propst Mason City Iowa [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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