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Device often seen on single sheathed house cars-what is its name?

rwitt_2000
 

Upon a another look they probably are door stops.

Bob Witt

Bob Witt wrote:


Bill Welch wrote:

I don't think this is the part I am referring to Dick. The fitting I
am speaking of had no ability to keep the door tight against the side.
The function of the strap I am talking about was to keep the door from
jamming against the bracing immediately adjacent to the door opening.
The CB&Q seemed to prefer to attach them to the steel braces while
Wabash secured them through the sheathing.
I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am
using
brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion
vertical and
diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear
the
bracing
when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of
this
fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that
most
things
have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip
have a
name?


Bill,

The metal straps in this photo of this LNE SS boxcar, are these the
details you are trying to model?

http://tinyurl.com/cwp5xk9

Bob Witt
rwitt_2000
 

Bill Welch wrote:

I don't think this is the part I am referring to Dick. The fitting I
am speaking of had no ability to keep the door tight against the side.
The function of the strap I am talking about was to keep the door from
jamming against the bracing immediately adjacent to the door opening.
The CB&Q seemed to prefer to attach them to the steel braces while
Wabash secured them through the sheathing.
I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am
using
brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion
vertical and
diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the
bracing
when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of
this
fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most
things
have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip
have a
name?


Bill,

The metal straps in this photo of this LNE SS boxcar, are these the
details you are trying to model?

http://tinyurl.com/cwp5xk9

Bob Witt
Bill Welch
 

I don't think this is the part I am referring to Dick. The fitting I am speaking of had no ability to keep the door tight against the side. The function of the strap I am talking about was to keep the door from jamming against the bracing immediately adjacent to the door opening. The CB&Q seemed to prefer to attach them to the steel braces while Wabash secured them through the sheathing.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., Rhbale@... wrote:


Sounds like you are talking about a "Door Rail" or a "Side Door Bottom
Guide" which is defined in the 1931 CBC as an iron bracket attached to the
side of freight cars having sliding doors to guide the door while it is being
opened and shut and also to prevent its swinging away from the car at the
bottom.

Richard Bale
_

In a message dated 3/7/2013 3:21:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
fgexbill@... writes:




I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using
brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and
diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing
when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this
fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things
have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a
name?

Bill Welch




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soolinehistory <destorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Pierre" <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:

Door rail?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@> wrote:

I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a name?

Bill Welch
They're related to the door rub strips used on double sheathed cars to keep the door from scuffing the car siding, in the case of a single sheathed car they attach to the sheathing and angle out around the framing the door must slide past to keep the door from getting hung up. Remember, wood doors might be flush on the outside, but the door frame is exposed on the inside. so there's some edges to catch.

The ARA Standard For Outside Hung Boxcar Door drawing in the 1922 CBC calls it a "chafing strip", it's 1/4" x 1" and attached with No. 14 wood screws.

Dennis
Bill Welch
 

Beats me John, it just a little strip. I though gussets usually tied things together and reinforced the connection.

Bill Welch

--- In STMFC@..., "John Sykes" <John.Sykes@...> wrote:

You mean the gussets?

-- John

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@> wrote:

I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a name?

Bill Welch
Rhbale@...
 

Sounds like you are talking about a "Door Rail" or a "Side Door Bottom
Guide" which is defined in the 1931 CBC as an iron bracket attached to the
side of freight cars having sliding doors to guide the door while it is being
opened and shut and also to prevent its swinging away from the car at the
bottom.

Richard Bale
_

In a message dated 3/7/2013 3:21:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
fgexbill@... writes:




I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using
brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and
diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing
when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this
fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things
have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a
name?

Bill Welch
John
 

You mean the gussets?

-- John

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a name?

Bill Welch
Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Door rail?
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a name?

Bill Welch
Bill Welch
 

I am in the process of building several Speedwitch SS kits and am using brass pins to hold the strips often applied to a lower portion vertical and diagonal braces nearest the door or doors to help the door clear the bracing when they are being opened. I have failed to note what the name of this fitting is, if I have ever seen it named. My experience is that most things have a name and are not a "thing-a-ma-bob." Does this simple strip have a name?

Bill Welch

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