MEK... perhaps another reason

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Before going over the edge on the banning of MEK--

It can also be used in the manufacture of Methamphetamine. It was "Red listed" back in 1988.

For years (at least in our state) I've been signing for the occasional decongestant pills that contain pseudoephedrine because these could also be used for illegal drug production.

It "might" be that since our local "big box" stores don't have a way of having us "sign for a gallon of MEK" that it was yanked. Not really for a purely health of the user or the environment reason.

So rather than blame a jurisdiction- perhaps we should wonder whether it is the attorneys for "our dealers". <g>

Might add that in 2005 the EPA even removed it from the list of Hazardous Air Pollutants...

And there are other liquid solvents that work well-- maybe not as cheap but heck, I figure my LHS needs all the help I can give it.

I do a bit of scratch building with styrene and the infrequent purchase of a bottle of something like methylene chloride isn't going to break me- it cost less than many of us spend on a meal at fast food that is probably not as healthy as working with styrene and solvent..

Now, back to my steam era freight car modeling..

Gordon Andrews
Modeling the Murphy Branch, 1942 (Probably Before MEK was invented)

I have been using MEK as a styrene cement since reading Al Armitage's
1959article in MR. However, the last time I looked for it at our local (but
very complete) ACE hardware store, the clerk told me that it was not longer
available. A Google search lead to a number of modeler forums where some
respondents indicated that it was available and others asked if California
had banned it.

After not finding it at Lowe's or Home Depot, I went to the Klean-Strip
website a week ago since Klean-Strip is the brand name for MEK, acetone,
lacquer thinner, etc. commonly stocked around here. I then discovered that
California has banned MEK. Klean-Strip showed MEK as available but "Not for
sale in California".

No problem, I'll get some the next time I'm in Reno, NV. But in checking the
availability of MEK online at the Lowe's and Home Depot stores in Reno, I
found that none of those stores in Reno have it in stock. So, I went to back
to the Klean-Strip website yesterday and it is now listed as "Discontinued".

So, if you are fan of MEK, you might want to stock up. I have about a half
gallon left and, fortunately, all of the structures for my layout are done.
But I have a long list of YV freight cars I want to build from styrene...

Jack Burgess
Newark, CA

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Gordon wrote:
<Before going over the edge on the banning of MEK--
<It can also be used in the manufacture of Methamphetamine. It was "Red
<listed" back in 1988.

True, but by using Ephedrine or Pseudo-ephedrine which is in Sudafed, one
doesn't need MEK. Back when meth labs were using MEK, that also needed
acetone, another hardware stable. (From the Utah Department of Public Safety
website, not personal experience...<g>)

Jack Burgess


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It hay be a county or community thing. The ;ocal hardware store in
Oakhurst in eastern Madera county in California this morning had three or
four gallons and several quart cans of MEK on the shelf.
Bill Volner

Jack Burgess <jack@...>

<It may be a county or community thing. The ;ocal hardware store in
<Oakhurst in eastern Madera county in California this morning had three
<or four gallons and several quart cans of MEK on the shelf.
<Bill Volner

No, it is a state-wide ban. The state most likely informed the manufacturers
(such as Kleen-Strip and others) who told hardware and paint store owners.
The hardware clerks that I have talked to didn't know why they didn't have
it anymore. I'm sure that hardware stores can sell product that they already
have in stock.

Jack Burgess