New Tahoe Truck


brianleppert@att.net
 

Tahoe Model Works has a new HO scale freight car truck. This is the Barber S-2 50-ton truck.

The Barber S-2 truck was developed by the Standard Car Truck Co. Barber S-2 trucks use built-in snubbing devices to provide a smoother ride. These are spring-loaded wedge-shaped friction shoes, located inside pockets cast into the bolster ends. These push out against the side frame columns to dampen vertical spring oscillations. Introduced in 1939, this design is still used today.

Model replicates prototype trucks under a Milwaukee Road rib-side box car at the Western Pacific Railroad Museum in Portola, CA. These trucks have spring planks. Users of S-2 trucks with spring planks include B&O, CofG, IHB, MILW, NYC, P&LE, Reading, SP and UP, and probably others.

Some modelers might find that this truck is a suitable stand-in for spring-plankless S-2 trucks. Advantages over the competition are better defined bolster end detail and proper sized journal boxes.

To see the flyer with photo for this TMW truck, please visit

www.sunshinekits.com/tahoe.html

I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Jim Hayes for including Tahoe Model Works on his web site.

At this time, I am out of semi-scale wheelsets. InterMountain supplies all my wheelsets, and they have been out of 33" semi-scale wheels since January. Hopefully, more will come from China in a couple of months. Filling orders for all 200 series trucks will be delayed, and checks will not be deposited until trucks can be shipped.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Ryan Reed
 

Model replicates prototype trucks under a Milwaukee Road rib-side box car.
Awesome!!!! Milwaukee Road modelers will sleep happy tonight! I don't even want to guess how many of these I'll end up buying.

Ryan Reed


water.kresse@...
 

Are we now selling 2014 Chevy Tahoe 4WD SUVs on this site?  Great!



Al Kresse

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Model replicates prototype trucks under a Milwaukee Road rib-side box car.
Awesome!!!! Milwaukee Road modelers will sleep happy tonight! I don't even want to guess how many of these I'll end up buying.

Ryan Reed




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Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Al Kresse wrote:
Are we now selling 2014 Chevy Tahoe 4WD SUVs on this site? Great!
Bite your tongue, Al. And then go stand in the corner. <g>

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
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Tim O'Connor
 

And for those extra-special freight cars that use these sideframes, you can now get machined
wheelsets with prototype-correct front & back profiles and axle profiles:
https://www.exactrail.com/33-natural-nickel-silver-wheel-sets

I plan to buy some and see how they work with my Tahoe S-2's...

Tim O'

----- Original Message -----
From: "brian" <brianleppert@...>

Tahoe Model Works has a new HO scale freight car truck. This is the Barber S-2 50-ton truck.

The Barber S-2 truck was developed by the Standard Car Truck Co. Barber S-2 trucks use built-in snubbing devices to provide a smoother ride. These are spring-loaded wedge-shaped friction shoes, located inside pockets cast into the bolster ends. These push out against the side frame columns to dampen vertical spring oscillations. Introduced in 1939, this design is still used today.

Model replicates prototype trucks under a Milwaukee Road rib-side box car at the Western Pacific Railroad Museum in Portola, CA. These trucks have spring planks. Users of S-2 trucks with spring planks include B&O, CofG, IHB, MILW, NYC, P&LE, Reading, SP and UP, and probably others.

Some modelers might find that this truck is a suitable stand-in for spring-plankless S-2 trucks. Advantages over the competition are better defined bolster end detail and proper sized journal boxes.

To see the flyer with photo for this TMW truck, please visit

www.sunshinekits.com/tahoe.html

I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Jim Hayes for including Tahoe Model Works on his web site.

At this time, I am out of semi-scale wheelsets. InterMountain supplies all my wheelsets, and they have been out of 33" semi-scale wheels since January. Hopefully, more will come from China in a couple of months. Filling orders for all 200 series trucks will be delayed, and checks will not be deposited until trucks can be shipped.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


golden1014
 

Tim,

Have you looked at the axle length of the ER wheelsets? The site advertises they are 1.002. TMW trucks are standardized to use the Intermountain wheelsets, which are in the 1.015 range. That variance would introduce some side-to-side play that I don't think you'd be happy with.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@... wrote:


And for those extra-special freight cars that use these sideframes, you can now get machined
wheelsets with prototype-correct front & back profiles and axle profiles:
https://www.exactrail.com/33-natural-nickel-silver-wheel-sets

I plan to buy some and see how they work with my Tahoe S-2's...

Tim O'


Tim O'Connor
 

John, no, I had not noticed that, thanks for pointing it out. Major bummer. I can't even think
of a truck sideframe I've used that will take a 1.002 axle length. Really makes you wonder
doesn't it, like "what were they thinking"?

Tim O'

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From: "John" <golden1014@...>

Tim,

Have you looked at the axle length of the ER wheelsets? The site advertises they are 1.002. TMW trucks are standardized to use the Intermountain wheelsets, which are in the 1.015 range. That variance would introduce some side-to-side play that I don't think you'd be happy with.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O' wrote:
John, no, I had not noticed that, thanks for pointing it out. Major bummer. I can't even think of a truck sideframe I've used that will take a 1.002 axle length. Really makes you wonder doesn't it, like "what were they thinking"?
A number of Atlas trucks have axle lengths like 0,0960. But there is a Reboxx size for these, which is what I use.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Ryan Reed
 

And for those extra-special freight cars that use these sideframes, you can now get machined
wheelsets with prototype-correct front & back profiles and axle profiles.
Has anyone else had trouble with those wheel sets wobbling on the insulated side? Maybe I just got a bad batch.

Ryan Reed


Tim O'Connor
 

Tony

Yes, as do the Kato ASF A-3 sideframes. But 1.002 would be tight in those.

A number of Atlas trucks have axle lengths like 0,0960. But there is a Reboxx size for these, which is what I use.

Tony Thompson


Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Yes, as do the Kato ASF A-3 sideframes. But 1.002 would be tight in those.
I use Reboxx 0.950 wheelsets in most Atlas trucks.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Just to make sure about applications of this truck. Can I assume
"all" the Milwaukee rib sided cars used this truck when new?

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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brianleppert@att.net
 

Only the 40' box cars and some of the 40' auto cars. The trucks came from several suppliers and so there will be minor differences, most notable the centered verticle web, or lack of, in the bolster end. The prototype I worked from was made by Buckeye.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV

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Just to make sure about applications of this truck. Can I assume
"all" the Milwaukee rib sided cars used this truck when new?


Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 18, 2013, at 9:59 AM, Jon Miller <atsf@...> wrote:
Just to make sure about applications of this truck. Can I assume
"all" the Milwaukee rib sided cars used this truck when new?
Jon, based on the photos I have, some 40' postwar rib-side box cars with improved Dreadnaught ends had self-aligning spring-plankless Barber S-2s (though that's not an issue for you, since you model 1941) as did some (but not all) 40' and 50' double door cars, both prewar and postwar. Prewar single door box cars, however, all had Barber S-2s with spring planks.

Richard Hendrickson


midrly
 

I've seen this much sideplay on real plain-bearing wheelsets. The journals and/or brasses would wear enough to allow an inch or so of side-to-side motion in the wheelset relative to the sideframes. It was interesting and sometimes scary to watch the freight car in front of you as the nearest axle appeared to run in and out of the journal boxes!

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@..., "John" <golden1014@...> wrote:

Tim,

Have you looked at the axle length of the ER wheelsets? The site advertises they are 1.002. TMW trucks are standardized to use the Intermountain wheelsets, which are in the 1.015 range. That variance would introduce some side-to-side play that I don't think you'd be happy with.

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL



--- In STMFC@..., timboconnor@ wrote:


And for those extra-special freight cars that use these sideframes, you can now get machined
wheelsets with prototype-correct front & back profiles and axle profiles:
https://www.exactrail.com/33-natural-nickel-silver-wheel-sets

I plan to buy some and see how they work with my Tahoe S-2's...

Tim O'