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Lee Gautreaux
Does anyone happen to know the builder of SSW 31000-33499? Here is a photo:
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/photos/sp/ssw/ssw032000a_cotton_belt_public_relations_sp_lines.jpg I have that they were built between 1923-25, but don't know the builder. Lee A. Gautreaux - The RailGoat http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/ |
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Andy Carlson
I don't know the builder, but I recognize the car's ends as being re-used for a 40' double 8' door steel side rebuild into Bluebird bus seat boxcars. The USRA clone DS car reused the frame and ends (with splice additions). New car body had a Stanray steel roof along with the riveted steel sides. Pictured in a Henderson photo book.
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cinderandeight@...
Lee,
SSW ordered 1000 box cars from ACF in 1923 (in two
500 car lots), My June 1924 ORER does not list #32000, but my Dec. 1924
issue shows the first 500 cars (32000-32499). The second series was
numbered 31500-31999, and appears in 1925 issues.
Rich Burg |
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Lee
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Great photo! Eric Neubauer's post to the old FC list 9-26-2000: "SSW 31500-32499 box cars apparently include 2 orders of 500 cars each from ACF placed in 1923. One lot is 9727. Does anyone, through builders photos or other means, know what the other lot number/plant is? Also when was lot 9727 built and which 500 cars does it include?" Tim O' Does anyone happen to know the builder of SSW 31000-33499? Here is a photo: |
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Ed Hawkins
On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:44 PM, cinderandeight@... wrote:
Lee,Lee, Rich, and Tim, Adding some supplemental information to what Rich Burg provided, I have documented two ACF lot numbers & dated builder's photos: Lot 9498, SSW 31230 built 9-23 (31000-31499, St. Louis plant, order date Nov. 1922). Lot 9727, SSW 31926 built 5-24 (31500-31999, Madison plant, order date Dec. 1923). The Railway Age order lists show 3 orders from ACF of 500 cars each, one order in 1922 and two orders in 1923. I have not been able to verify a 3rd ACF order. Based on a photo that appears on page 379 of the 1928 Car Builders' Cyclopedia, I believe that one of the orders listed as ACF in the 1923 R.A. order list was either a mistake or was changed to be built by Mount Vernon as series 32000-32499. The Mount Vernon photo of SSW 32499 shows a build date of 3-24. According to the 1924 R.A. order list, Mount Vernon built 1,000 SSW 40-ton box cars. The order was placed in December, so these cars were likely 32500-33499 with build dates in 1925. Circa mid-1930s to early 1940s, many of the cars in original series 31000-33499 were raised from 8'-6" to 10'-2" inside height and re# 36000-38499 (1,784 10'-2" cars in 1/43). Another 200 of the original 31000-33499 series cars were rebuilt as all-steel auto cars in 1936-37 (re# 46000-46199), then had their roofs raised in 1939 with IH of 10'-9". Regards, Ed Hawkins |
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