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What's the verdict on this model:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41657 with NEW stencil date 9-56? Thanks, Bob Sterner St. Paul, MN |
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Richard Remiarz
The paint scheme appears to be too new for your era. The ends and roof are too old for a new date in 1956. For 1956 there should be a diagonal panel roof and the latest Post-war dreadnaught ends. To top it off, the price is very high for an old Proto 2000 car.
Rich To: STMFC@... From: rwsterner@... Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:43:26 -0800 Subject: [STMFC] P2K UP A-50-17 What's the verdict on this model: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41657 with NEW stencil date 9-56? Thanks, Bob Sterner St. Paul, MN |
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Richard Remiarz
Sorry,
I accidently hit the send key before finishing editing the email and completing the signature block. Bob, I believe the paint scheme is too new for your era. The ends and roof are too old for a new date in 1956. For 1956 there should be a diagonal panel roof and the latest Post-war dreadnaught ends. I suppose the price is becoming the norm for RTR cars, but I must be getting old, as it seems just yesterday we were paying around $10.00 for these as a kits. Rich Remiarz Vadnais Heights, MN To: stmfc@... From: rremiarz@... Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:14:15 -0600 Subject: RE: [STMFC] P2K UP A-50-17 The paint scheme appears to be too new for your era. The ends and roof are too old for a new date in 1956. For 1956 there should be a diagonal panel roof and the latest Post-war dreadnaught ends. To top it off, the price is very high for an older Proto 2000 car.
Rich To: STMFC@... From: rwsterner@... Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:43:26 -0800 Subject: [STMFC] P2K UP A-50-17 What's the verdict on this model: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41657 with NEW stencil date 9-56? Thanks, Bob Sterner St. Paul, MN |
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Bob
A Proto 2000 double-door end-door is the correct style for a UP A-50-17. (Note: The end-door P2K models still have the bad roofs on them. The roof was only corrected on the models that had no end doors.) The "Automated Rail Way" slogan didn't appear until 1961. The number of errors in the lettering is ridiculous -- ** Should be U P and not U. P. (no periods) ** The car number is oversized ** The slogan is undersized ** The slogan's placement with respect to the UP shield is incorrect ** The words UNION and PACIFIC (over/under) should be closer together ** The UP shield is the wrong size ** At least two characteristic UP stencils (shop stencil and lube stencil) are missing ** The stencil on the door (thin horiz white lines with a thicker line & ball in the middle) is rendered especially poorly -- What does that stencil mean anyway? Did Walthers even LOOK at a photo when they did the artwork for this model?? Tim O'Connor ------------------------------------------------ What's the verdict on this model: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-41657 with NEW stencil date 9-56? Thanks, Bob Sterner St. Paul, MN |
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The UP A-50-17 class was built during 1941-2. The "New" date should reflect that...as does the photo in the late Terry Metcalfe's book on UP frt cars.
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Clark Propst
I’m with Rich on this ‘sticker shock’ thing. I’m just finishing a Sunshine
mini-kit with a P2K single door 50 fter kit as a core. Price on the box is $7.
Seems like only yesterday I was at Trainfest in Milwaukee having a soft drink
when a friend asked how much I paid for it? I said $3.50. He replied “You could
have bought a Life Like kit for that!” This year there were only a very few
Branchline kits amongst the hundreds/thousands of RTR boxes. Ah, for the good
old days when the market was flooded with kits...
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa |
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Thanks, everyone. Knowing next to nothing about UP freight cars, I picked up one of these on a whim very cheap at a show, intending it mainly to add to my small collection of mainly post-steam freight cars I run around during Free-mo meets. For this purpose the prototype bar isn't high but man oh man I didn't expect this many faults. Bob Sterner St. Paul, MN ---In STMFC@..., <cepropst@...> wrote: I’m with Rich on this ‘sticker shock’ thing. I’m just finishing a Sunshine
mini-kit with a P2K single door 50 fter kit as a core. Price on the box is $7.
Seems like only yesterday I was at Trainfest in Milwaukee having a soft drink
when a friend asked how much I paid for it? I said $3.50. He replied “You could
have bought a Life Like kit for that!” This year there were only a very few
Branchline kits amongst the hundreds/thousands of RTR boxes. Ah, for the good
old days when the market was flooded with kits...
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa |
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