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Friend needs Milwaukeer Road box car 502634 info
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Tony Thompson
Al Kresse wrote:
Between draft gear. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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water.kresse@...
Did it go between the bolsters or draft gear housings?
Al Kresse
From: "Tim O'Connor"
To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:51:01 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Friend needs Milwaukeer Road box car 502634 info Al The Red Caboose PFE reefer has one -- a single I-beam. Tim O' ------------------- What is a Betendorf underframe? Al Kresse |
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water.kresse@...
Sounds like a 1900-1910 steel center-sill upgrade for wooden cars.
Al Kresse
From: "Tim O'Connor"
To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:51:01 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Friend needs Milwaukeer Road box car 502634 info Al The Red Caboose PFE reefer has one -- a single I-beam. Tim O' ------------------- What is a Betendorf underframe? Al Kresse |
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Al
The Red Caboose PFE reefer has one -- a single I-beam. Tim O' ------------------- What is a Betendorf underframe? Al Kresse |
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Tony Thompson
A product of the Bettendorf company, naturally. A one-piece I-beam, cut so that it would taper toward the bolster -- a bad plan, as it turned out, as the SP among others found fatigue cracks emanating from that cut. Photos of same are in my SP freight car books regarding several car types which had these frames, including flat, box and auto cars. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history |
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Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
For what it's worth, the diagrams show MILW
502955-505138 as double sheathed cars with Bettendorf u.f.
Eric N.
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water.kresse@...
What is a Betendorf underframe? I've seen ARA AAR USRA underframes . . . . but this description is new to me.
Al Kresse |
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kruegerp@...
Doesn't Westerfield offer these cars (12000 series)?
Paul
Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA
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Thanks Richard! At 1/23/2014 03:02 PM Thursday, you wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@... > wrote: |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
Double sheathed with Bettendorf underframes and T-section trucks,, Tim, as shown in the 1937 MILW freight car diagram book. Richard Hendrickson |
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I forgot to add, back in 2001 I asked a question about these two number series -- were they double sheathed, or single sheathed cars? I never did get an answer to the query. series 500000-502954 blt CM&StP 1913 series 502955-505138 blt CM&StP 1914 Tim O' ---------------------------------------------------------- Funny -- This same car came up in discussion on the old freightcars list, thirteen years ago! To this date I don't think anyone's found a picture of the Virginian car. Tim O' Al, I don�t have a photo, though I do have photos of similar MILW box cars in other number series. The number series (in the 10/38 ORER) for this car was 500000-502954. These were 40� wood sheathed cars with steel underframes. Richard Hendrickson |
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Funny -- This same car came up in discussion on the old freightcars list, thirteen years ago! To this date I don't think anyone's found a picture of the Virginian car. Tim O' Al, I don�t have a photo, though I do have photos of similar MILW box cars in other number series. The number series (in the 10/38 ORER) for this car was 500000-502954. These were 40� wood sheathed cars with steel underframes. |
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Anspach Denny <danspachmd@...>
The Virginian car in question was one of two wood Milwaukee box cars that the railroad bought as the result of wreck damage on Virginian rails (different dates, different cars).
As I recall, one of the Virginian cars outlasted all of its Milwaukee class brothers that were left behind. Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Sacramento Please make note of my new eMail address. |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Jan 23, 2014, at 9:34 AM, water.kresse@... wrote:
Al, I don’t have a photo, though I do have photos of similar MILW box cars in other number series. The number series (in the 10/38 ORER) for this car was 500000-502954. These were 40’ wood sheathed cars with steel underframes. Richard Hendrickson |
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water.kresse@...
Got a Virginian-person who found a single Virginian box car that was purchased in 1951. He states --
I have been doing some additional Virginian boxcar research with the information I have here. There are several oddball cars that don’t have a lot of information about them. One such car is car class BX-14 which was a one car class, car 61551. BX-14 car 61551 was originally a MILW car but was retired in 1951. I do not have a picture of 61551 or of a car in the original MILW car class that 502634 was in. I was hoping maybe you know someone who is a Milwaukee Road guy that might have the information about the class that car was in and hopefully a picture? If so, let me know if they can email a picture and/or car diagram with build information, etc.
Al Kresse |
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