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PRR GL car

Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

If it was taken in 1939, the car has apparently been back dated as a historical item. Before 1911, two hand brakes weren't uncommon. Of course, the second hand brake was made obsolete by the 1911 Safety Appliance Act. I've always figured the brackets were there to allow a man to pass from one end to the other when the car was empty. I could see brackets like that being used a lot on those many short coal delivery sidings along the Reading's elevated line into Reading Terminal. Note that the car lacks a side plate and that the top of the side sheets were bent over to form a flange, and early PSC trait. If the number (pre 1905 renumbering) is correct, the car is from the very first PRR order for GLs.
 
Eric N.
 
 

 

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Eric;

Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels...

Elden Gatwood

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This was my first thought since they appear to be related to PRR, however I was un able to find any likely number series. 1,000 cars would be hard to hide.

Eric N.




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Eric;

Have you looked into whether or not they were sold to the PRR? Many coal companies that bought PRR class clones did this when economic downturns necessitated sale of assets. PRR rostered many ex-coal company hoppers.

Elden Gatwood

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Does anyone know where their fleet of 1000+ GL design cars mostly built by PSC in 1902 went? They don't appear to have gone to the coal company successors.

Thanks,
Eric

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Benjamin Hom
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:
"Here is an interesting shot:

http://cdm16038.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15017coll8/id/2682/rec/985

....and the fact that they deliberately call it a "relic"?

Check out those interior brackets, and dual brake wheels..."

Eric Neubauer replied:
"If it was taken in 1939, the car has apparently been back dated as a historical item. Before 1911, two hand brakes weren't uncommon. Of course, the second hand brake was made obsolete by the 1911 Safety Appliance Act. I've always figured the brackets were there to allow a man to pass from one end to the other when the car was empty. I could
see brackets like that being used a lot on those many short coal delivery sidings along the Reading's elevated line into Reading Terminal. Note that the car lacks a side plate and that the top of the side sheets were bent over to form a flange, and early PSC trait. If the number (pre 1905 renumbering) is correct, the car is from the very first PRR order for GLs."

The Pennsy maintained a historical rolling stock collection which surprisingly survived the Penn Central bankruptcy, and was donated by PC to the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania.  PRR 33164 is on display inside the museum.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=251145

Ben Hom
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