Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history?
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Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
It is my understanding that Semet-Solvay was always a part of Allied Chemical, even though the Semt-Solvay tankcars, as delivered, had no markings to show Allied Chemical affiliation.
I have a photo showing a Semet-Solvay car with a small Allied Chemical rectangle herald of undetermined date and a later image of a tankcar with a large Allied Chemical herald. Can anyone help with rough dates as to when these markings were in use? Thanks -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com |
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water.kresse@...
Negative, the Semet-Solvay Company goes back to the 1890s with their recovery coke ovens going into business in the early 1900s . . . . and there where merged into what became the Allied Chemical Co in 1920.
Al Kresse
From: "Pierre Oliver"
To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:11:36 PM Subject: [STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? It is my understanding that Semet-Solvay was always a part of Allied Chemical, even though the Semt-Solvay tankcars, as delivered, had no markings to show Allied Chemical affiliation. I have a photo showing a Semet-Solvay car with a small Allied Chemical rectangle herald of undetermined date and a later image of a tankcar with a large Allied Chemical herald. Can anyone help with rough dates as to when these markings were in use? Thanks -- Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com |
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Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
Alright. I went too far back in the
"Way Back Machine".
Let's talk about, post 1940. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.comOn 3/21/2014 3:20 PM, water.kresse@... wrote:
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water.kresse@...
Pierre,
There lies the issue with a group that each member has his "own era modeled" that is different from many of the others' interests. My narrow era of interest for the C&O Rwy spans 1868 thru 1965. We do seem to have more images of "generic black" tank cars in area of the Semet-Solvay and Ashland Oil facilities near Ashland and Russell, KY, randomly popping up in yard shots.Al Kresse
From: "Pierre Oliver"
To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 3:25:43 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? Alright. I went too far back in the "Way Back Machine". Let's talk about, post 1940. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 3/21/2014 3:20 PM, water.kresse@... wrote: > > Negative, the Semet-Solvay Company goes back to the 1890s with their > recovery coke ovens going into business in the early 1900s . . . . and > there where merged into what became the Allied Chemical Co in 1920. > > Al Kresse > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Pierre Oliver" > *To: *STMFC@... > *Sent: *Friday, March 21, 2014 3:11:36 PM > *Subject: *[STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? > > It is my understanding that Semet-Solvay was always a part of Allied > Chemical, even though the Semt-Solvay tankcars, as delivered, had no > markings to show Allied Chemical affiliation. > I have a photo showing a Semet-Solvay car with a small Allied Chemical > rectangle herald of undetermined date and a later image of a tankcar > with a large Allied Chemical herald. > Can anyone help with rough dates as to when these markings were in use? > Thanks > > -- > Pierre Oliver > www.elgincarshops.com > www.yarmouthmodelworks.com > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7226 - Release Date: 03/21/14 > |
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Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
Al,
I should have been more specific about the time frames that I was thinking of. The perils of a group which such far ranging interests. The advantage is that one can learn stuff , and that's always good. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.comOn 3/21/2014 3:58 PM, water.kresse@... wrote:
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water.kresse@...
That is why most of us are in the group! From: "Pierre Oliver" To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:06:54 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? Al, I should have been more specific about the time frames that I was thinking of. The perils of a group which such far ranging interests. The advantage is that one can learn stuff , and that's always good. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 3/21/2014 3:58 PM, water.kresse@... wrote: > > Pierre, > > > There lies the issue with a group that each member has his > "own era modeled" that is different from many of the > others' interests. My narrow era of interest for the C&O > Rwy spans 1868 thru 1965. We do seem to have more images > of "generic black" tank cars in area of the Semet-Solvay > and Ashland Oil facilities near Ashland and Russell, KY, > randomly popping up in yard shots. > > > Al Kresse > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Pierre Oliver" > *To: *STMFC@... > *Sent: *Friday, March 21, 2014 3:25:43 PM > *Subject: *Re: [STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? > > Alright. I went too far back in the "Way Back Machine". > Let's talk about, post 1940. > > Pierre Oliver > www.elgincarshops.com > www.yarmouthmodelworks.com > > On 3/21/2014 3:20 PM, water.kresse@... wrote: > > > > Negative, the Semet-Solvay Company goes back to the 1890s with their > > recovery coke ovens going into business in the early 1900s . . . . and > > there where merged into what became the Allied Chemical Co in 1920. > > > > Al Kresse > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *From: *"Pierre Oliver" > > *To: *STMFC@... > > *Sent: *Friday, March 21, 2014 3:11:36 PM > > *Subject: *[STMFC] Semet-Solvay-Allied Chemical history? > > > > It is my understanding that Semet-Solvay was always a part of Allied > > Chemical, even though the Semt-Solvay tankcars, as delivered, had no > > markings to show Allied Chemical affiliation. > > I have a photo showing a Semet-Solvay car with a small Allied Chemical > > rectangle herald of undetermined date and a later image of a tankcar > > with a large Allied Chemical herald. > > Can anyone help with rough dates as to when these markings were in use? > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Pierre Oliver > > www.elgincarshops.com > > www.yarmouthmodelworks.com > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7226 - Release Date: > 03/21/14 > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7226 - Release Date: 03/21/14 > |
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Richard Hendrickson
On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
Pierre, the various Allied Chemical companies that owned and operated tank cars did not identify themselves on the cars as Allied Chemical divisions until ca. 1946. After that, though they kept their own reporting marks and numbers, the company names stenciled on the cars read, e.g., BARRETT DIVISION ALLIED CHEMICAL AND DYE CORPORATION This applied to Barrett, General Chemical, Nitrogen, Solvay Process, and Semet-Solvay Divisions (and, later, the Plastics Division). Eventually the cars of all these divisions were brought together into a single fleet with ACDX reporting marks and large Allied Chemical emblems, but this took place in the ‘60s and was not yet in effect as late as 1962. At that time, all of the cars were renumbered by adding a prefix number to the existing number (e.g., 4 to Solvay Process cars, so that SPX 9103 became ACDX 49103 and 5 to Semet-Solvay cars, so that SSLX 3132 became ACDX 53132). |
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