Needle in a Haystack


Gary Roe
 

I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern.  Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars.  The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors.  Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102.  It is not known if these were purchased second hand.

Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Eric Neubauer <eaneubauer@...>
 

With such an unusual cubic capacity, a search though a slightly earlier ORER would probably turn up just a few options. It's a bit tedious but shouldn't take more than a half hour. Maybe it will ring a bell with someone and that won't be necessary.
 
Eric N.
 
 

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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 7:08 PM
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I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern.  Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars.  The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors.  Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102.  It is not known if these were purchased second hand.

Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Eric Lombard
 

Gary,

Here is what I have:

Assignment of RENO origin based on concurrence of physical features. There are no other matches found as of 10-2013. 2440+ cars RBLT in Springfield, MO, to steel siding in 4 Groups: B,C,D,E, keeping original numbers from double-sheathed USRA cars.

http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p01587.jpg#
http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p01586.jpg#
http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p00837.jpg#
http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p01590.jpg#

 


http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/frisco-lines-st-louis-and-san-fransisco-rly-boxcar-128489;rad
http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/frisco-lines-st-louis-and-san-fransisco-box-car-129462;rad

 


 


 



1957(1)    ...  Not listed in ORER.
195x          3  RENO out of  SL-SF 127002<>130499.
1958(1)      3  Listed as new addition in ORER.
1959              Underframes are 40 years old.
1960(10)    3

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL


Bill Hirt <whirt@...>
 

Gary,

In the April 2014 St Louis Union Station News (published by the TRRA Historical Society), there just happens to be a multipage article about the Jerseyville & Eastern. The railroad was formed in 1941 within the city limits of Jerseyville from the remnants of the Chicago, Springfield and St. Louis Railroad (nee Chicago, Peoria and St. Louis Railroad). When formed in 1941, there were several customers: International Shoe Co, a sand and gravel ready-mix company, a bottle/bulk gas distributor and a gran elevator. The railroad's sole connection to the world was the Alton (GM&O after 1947).

International Shoe closed in 1958. By then the main customer was the elevator, Farmer's Elevator Inc.. The elevator was part of a local co-op that loaded corn, wheat and sometime soybeans from a 10,000 bushel elevator.

According to the article, the January 1958 ORER was the first listing of the cars. The main purpose was for corn and wheat loading. The cars were no longer shown in February 1963 ORER (after the era of this list). The railroad only had two employees, so it is a good bet that they were second or third hand cars. There is no information in article of their origin.

Bill Hirt

On 5/19/2014 6:08 PM, gary roe wabashrr@... [STMFC] wrote:

I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern.  Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars.  The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors.  Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102.  It is not known if these were purchased second hand.

Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Scott Pitzer
 

Maybe rebuilds of USRA double sheathed boxcars (40 ton) with no change in IH (9'0")?  Did any road do some like that?
Scott Pitzer



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With such an unusual cubic capacity, a search though a slightly earlier ORER would probably turn up just a few options. It's a bit tedious but shouldn't take more than a half hour. Maybe it will ring a bell with someone and that won't be necessary.
 
Eric N.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 7:08 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Needle in a Haystack

 

I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern.  Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars.  The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors.  Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102.  It is not known if these were purchased second hand.

Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Tim O'Connor
 

Heh heh heh -- how much of a reward?? I have two photos...

Tim "finally a hobby payday!" O'Connor

I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern. Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars. The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors. Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102. It is not known if these were purchased second hand.

Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.

gary roe
quincy, illinois


Benjamin Hom
 

Scott Pitzer asked:
"Maybe rebuilds of USRA double sheathed boxcars (40 ton) with no change in IH (9'0")?  Did any road do some like that?"
Yes - ACL/C&WC and SL-SF.

Ben Hom


Gary Roe
 

Many thanks to Eric Lombard, Ben Hom, Bill Hirt, and Tim O'Connor for their help, and especially the photos!  Now all I have to do, is figure out what "handsomely rewarded" means.  Perhaps I can purchase a liquid refreshment of your choice next time I see you.

Thanks again!

gary roe
quincy, illinois


From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:15 PM
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Heh heh heh -- how much of a reward?? I have two photos...

Tim "finally a hobby payday!" O'Connor

>I recently learned of a little shortline in Jerseyville, Illinois called the Jerseyville & Eastern. Sometime between the Jan 1957 and Jan 1958 issues of the ORER, they acquired 3, 40 ton steel box cars. The IL was 40'-6, IH was 9'-0, and they had 6' doors. Reporting marks were "JE" and were numbered 100-102. It is not known if these were purchased second hand.
>
>Any help with info would be appreciated, and a photo would be handsomely rewarded.
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>gary roe
>quincy, illinois