Mark,



Good luck on Vol. 3. The last time I saw it on eBay, it was part of a set
that included Vol. 1-3, and I stopped bidding at $120. I saw Vol. 3 listed
once at Ron's Books for $125. If you want it for the freight car paint
chart, keep in mind that most of the mixes used the original Floquil R
numbers. I don't have the book, but I have a scan of the chart if you want
it. I think you would do better using Tru-Color paints, assuming they have
released the colors you need.



Nelson Moyer



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Unfortunately RP CYC Volume 3 is sold out. If anyone has volumes 2 and or 3
they would like to sell please contact me off list.







Mark

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Subject: [STMFC] BOXCAR PAINT MIX





I appreciated all of the varying responses to my inquiry on matching
prepainted
freight car models. Pat's article in Volume 3 of the RPC CYC was very
helpful.
Incidently Pat also did an article in one of the old Model Railraoding
magazines
which also addressed this issue.

I unfortuantely do not have an eye that can determine if a color needs a
little more
red or orange to do a paint match. All of my rolling stock is weathered. I
find it
best (for myself anyway) to begin the process with a car that has a good
uniform
paint job. IMHO weathering should never be used to cover up flaws in the
paint
or poor modeling.

Many of us now exchange the roofs on Intermountain models with Red Caboose
roofs
because the RC roof is much more accurate. We also readily exchange doors in
order to better represent the railroad that we are modeling (The factory
finished
models do not always come with the proper door for the proper railroad). It
seems
better to have these additions match the original paint job as opposed to
making up
a story about the revision being done after the car had been in service.

I have gotten many good paint mixes from people on this list. A Northern
Pacific
color was achieved with a mix of Folquil Boxcar Red and Floquil D&H Caboose
Red (Who would have thought of D&H Caboose Red?). It looks really good on
the Central Valley stock car in my production line. Jeff English provided an
excellent mix for New York Central boxcars. I have used with great success
Greg Martins +Red and +Orange system of shading panels. I was just hoping
that someone might already have achieved a mix for the basic Intermountain
car.

Well I just have to make time to sit down and start mixing.

Thanks To All:

Bill Pardie

I appreciated all of the varying responses to my inquiry on matching prepainted
freight car models. Pat's article in Volume 3 of the RPC CYC was very helpful.
Incidently Pat also did an article in one of the old Model Railraoding magazines
which also addressed this issue.

I unfortuantely do not have an eye that can determine if a color needs a little more
red or orange to do a paint match. All of my rolling stock is weathered. I find it
best (for myself anyway) to begin the process with a car that has a good uniform
paint job. IMHO weathering should never be used to cover up flaws in the paint
or poor modeling.

Many of us now exchange the roofs on Intermountain models with Red Caboose roofs
because the RC roof is much more accurate. We also readily exchange doors in
order to better represent the railroad that we are modeling (The factory finished
models do not always come with the proper door for the proper railroad). It seems
better to have these additions match the original paint job as opposed to making up
a story about the revision being done after the car had been in service.

I have gotten many good paint mixes from people on this list. A Northern Pacific
color was achieved with a mix of Folquil Boxcar Red and Floquil D&H Caboose
Red (Who would have thought of D&H Caboose Red?). It looks really good on
the Central Valley stock car in my production line. Jeff English provided an
excellent mix for New York Central boxcars. I have used with great success
Greg Martins +Red and +Orange system of shading panels. I was just hoping
that someone might already have achieved a mix for the basic Intermountain
car.

Well I just have to make time to sit down and start mixing.

Thanks To All:

Bill Pardie