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rob.mclear3@...
Now this I can agree with, I was a member of the club where we had one particular member who would continually pick up other peoples stuff and mine in particular, I build resin cars to run and I like the detail I can get from some of the kits that are still around with Proto 2000 tank cars, (I have built about 40) and Intermountain SFRD reefers (about 70) but I strongly objected to him picking things up with his ham fist.. The lack of action by those in authority led me to take my own steps, big ones out the door.
This was of course after remonstrating with the offending party somewhat vigorously. :-) Rob McLear Australia ---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote : Don Valentine wrote > In the long run our late friend and mentor, Richard Hendrickson, had it right.There is no right or wrong. Any of us is smart enough to rationalize our own choices, whatever they are. But with regard to details, it is a fact that the items most likely to be smashed to bits on a club layout populated with ham-handed members are mostly the "highly visible" bits: -- fine running boards -- fine grabirons -- fine stirrups -- fine ladders -- brake hoses of any kind -- tank cars of any kind not made of a solid block of lead At my club virtually every Proto 2000 tank car has broken pieces. Almost every recent finely detailed Athearn or Intermountain RTR freight car model has some part or parts broken. Only in a VERY FEW cases are any underbody superdetails broken -- they're out of the way for the most part, and less vulnerable. On the other hand, when I operate on the RPI club, there are literally hundreds of finely detailed, undamaged freight cars. So maybe there's a lesson here -- If you operate with yahoos and bozos, you have to expect the consequences. But if your operators are serious modelers and respectful of equipment, then detail to your heart's content! Tim O'Connor |
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Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
Rob l agree with you there are people about who could not careless about other peoples models no matter how much time you spend on a model they handle it with hands like meat hooks. Now as a 6'6" biker ex pipefitter welder i have big hands but i ask i if i can handle someone else's model and then HANDLE IT WITH CARE AND RESPECT. Paul Doggett England Sent from Samsung mobile "rob.mclear3@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Now this I can agree with, I was a member of the club where we had one particular member who would continually pick up other peoples stuff and mine in particular, I build resin cars to run and I like the detail I can get from some of the kits that are still around with Proto 2000 tank cars, (I have built about 40) and Intermountain SFRD reefers (about 70) but I strongly objected to him picking things up with his ham fist.. The lack of action by those in authority led me to take my own steps, big ones out the door. This was of course after remonstrating with the offending party somewhat vigorously. :-) Rob McLear Australia
---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote : Don Valentine wrote > In the long run our late friend and mentor, Richard Hendrickson, had it right.There is no right or wrong. Any of us is smart enough to rationalize our own choices, whatever they are. But with regard to details, it is a fact that the items most likely to be smashed to bits on a club layout populated with ham-handed members are mostly the "highly visible" bits: -- fine running boards -- fine grabirons -- fine stirrups -- fine ladders -- brake hoses of any kind -- tank cars of any kind not made of a solid block of lead At my club virtually every Proto 2000 tank car has broken pieces. Almost every recent finely detailed Athearn or Intermountain RTR freight car model has some part or parts broken. Only in a VERY FEW cases are any underbody superdetails broken -- they're out of the way for the most part, and less vulnerable. On the other hand, when I operate on the RPI club, there are literally hundreds of finely detailed, undamaged freight cars. So maybe there's a lesson here -- If you operate with yahoos and bozos, you have to expect the consequences. But if your operators are serious modelers and respectful of equipment, then detail to your heart's content! Tim O'Connor |
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Tony Thompson
Rob, I too was in a club where a number of members could not possibly care less about carefully handling rolling stock of all kinds, one reason I eventually bailed, and would be unlikely ever to join a club again. That plus the fact that some of us members actually worked on the layout, others only were interested in running trains, period. The disparity in effort was a little tiresome too.
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Andy Harman
At 12:03 PM 8/24/2014 -0700, you wrote:
eventually bailed, and would be unlikely ever to join a club again. That plus the fact that some of us members actually worked on the layout, others only were interested in running trains, period. The disparity in effort was a little tiresome too.I was involved in a modular group for some years off and on. It had fairly loose standards and virtually no standards in terms of continuity or any minimum level of detail. That was ok with me, the club's main purpose was to give guys who didn't have layouts an opportunity to run their stuff. And that described me at the time. In particular, I wanted to run full length passenger trains, which didn't fit my 4x8 in my 2-bedroom apartment. Unfortunately the "run bosses" of this group, who basically were adult versions of the kids who didn't get to be hall monitors back in junior high, were obsessed with continuous running and didn't allow for any "debug time" when you set up. Long cars with Kadees tend to have problems with roller coaster joints between modules, and they simply didn't tolerate any fiddling. One guy used Walthers Goo to glue the couplers together on his AHM passenger cars. Another guy - who never built his own layout - displayed a brass locomotive on his module for years and years. It was banned after one trip around the layout, and he had no opportunity to tinker or do even the most basic tuning. And he was ok with that. I had enough of it after just a few shows. That club became obsessed with winning the popular vote / peoples choice award at every show and did some rather psychotic stuff - like setting up in a figure eight with supposedly electronic sensors to prevent T-boning. It didn't. Kato track on the floor was a big improvement in my life. Andy |
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