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markstation01@...
 

I have some Atlas HO Scale PS-2's undec, I need data for cars built mid-1950's, any suggestions?



Benjamin Hom
 

markstation01@yahoo.com (who didn't sign his name) asked:
"I have some Atlas HO Scale PS-2's undec, I need data for cars built mid-1950's, any suggestions?"

The Atlas model is a 2003 cu ft two-bay car with the later wide hatch spacing.  Ed Hawkins' articles in the April 1995, June 1995, September 1995, and November 1995 issues of Railmodel Journal cover these cars.


Ben Hom


clipper841@att.net <clipper841@...>
 

don't forget mm ran a two part issue in the 90's, also
mel perry

On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

markstation01@... (who didn't sign his name) asked:
"I have some Atlas HO Scale PS-2's undec, I need data for cars built mid-1950's, any suggestions?"

The Atlas model is a 2003 cu ft two-bay car with the later wide hatch spacing.  Ed Hawkins' articles in the April 1995, June 1995, September 1995, and November 1995 issues of Railmodel Journal cover these cars.

Ben Hom



Scott H. Haycock
 

The MM articles appeared in the August, and September 1998 issues.

Scott Haycock


 

don't forget mm ran a two part issue in the 90's, also

mel perry






Benjamin Hom
 

Mel Perry wrote:
"Don't forget mm ran a two part issue in the 90's, also."


Actually, it was three parts by Martin Lofton in the July, August, and November 1991 issues. There were additional articles on PS-2s by Jim Eager in the June and September 1992 issues, by Jim Kinkaid in the August 1998 issue and by Hundman in the September 1998 issue, but I suspect these articles covered the three-bay cars.  Unfortunately, they're all titled "PS-2 Covered Hopper".  Another example of Hundman's vague article titles.




Ben Hom


clipper841@att.net <clipper841@...>
 

scott:
that's the one, the first part covered the side channel ends over the bolster, and the
second part covered the modern version which utilized just another rib over the
bolster
thanks
mel perry

On Aug 27, 2014, at 6:25 PM, 'Scott H. Haycock ' shhaycock@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

The MM articles appeared in the August, and September 1998 issues.

Scott Haycock


 

don't forget mm ran a two part issue in the 90's, also

mel perry








Tim O'Connor
 

And if you need pictures of many of the cars as delivered...

http://www.kadee.com/ca/ps2/ps2b.htm

Just be aware that Kadee produced the early cars and the later cars while
Atlas only did the later cars. Both the Atlas and old MDC/Roundhouse cars
have a serious deficiency -- the outlets are only partly modeled.

Tim O'


Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

Let me clarify I need decals to do the cars, also how can I get the back issues of the articles mentioned?

 
Mark L. Drake
eBay ID member1108


Clark Propst
 

Many of these car were in cement service and would stay within a certain region, many hardly ever left home rails. To model these, find decals for the road you model. Cars carrying other ladings may have traveled farther for home. Like SE road’s Phosphate cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


mopacfirst
 

Forgive me for answering off the top of my head, but I'm not near my magazine collection now.

 

The 1991 series was inspired (here's what you can do with....) on the MDC and similar two-bay cars, while the 1998 series I believe was inspired by the Bowser and Kato iterations of the same prototypes.

 

Later, when the Walthers and Athearn three-bay cars were produced in near-proximity timewise, there was another series of probably three parts on the three-bay.  I used to butcher two MDC cars into three-bays, but never did that to any of the more recent models.

 

Somewhat off-topic, but I used to use a 3M 'yellow sticky' at the top edge of each issue, or more if needed, to flag freight car articles.  The magazines lived, and still do, in magazine files.  Too bad nothing comes in the door any more for me to flag like that....

 

Ron Merrick


Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Mark,

Clark is right on this. Most of the railroad-owned cars were in cement service (PS-2s, AC&Fs and clones) , and couldn't be used for anything else without a major overhaul and cleaning. That was what they were originally designed for. Cement being a plentiful commodity throughout most of the country, they usually didn't stray off their home roads much.

There were exceptions though. I remember seeing and shooting a lot of C&O and related cars when I first came to Virginia that carried sand out of Dilwyn. AFAIK, all of the WP's small fleet of PS-2s were in dedicated limestone service from mines west of Salt Lake City to the U.S. Steel plant at Geneva. It wasn't until the 1970s that some appeared regularly in California in company sand service. Some Southern and even N&W cars carried titanium products out of Piney River, VA on the Virginia Blue Ridge. Any railroad-owned cars dedicated to special commodities would have been tightly controlled to keep them from being contaminated by loading with other products.

Many private owners were also single-commodity cars, especially those carrying bulk chemicals, running on regular routes to major factories of their owners or leasees (think of the Boraxo cars).

Very few of these hoppers carried grain-type products. The big exceptions was Central Soya (CSX reporting marks!) which wore billboard "McMillan-Feed-Mills" splashed across their sides. Another exception were the 7 NAHX cars leased to Quaker Oats. Once again, these cars probably ran on pretty specific routes. The role of general grain carriers really fell to the slightly later 47' PS-2s and their competitors.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 8/28/14 9:14 AM, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] wrote:
 

Many of these car were in cement service and would stay within a certain region, many hardly ever left home rails. To model these, find decals for the road you model. Cars carrying other ladings may have traveled farther for home. Like SE road’s Phosphate cars.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Rick Jesionowski
 

A lot of these cars went off the home roads, in my area alone the Ann Arbor had a raft of these cars, half were in service to the Dundee Cement Plant in Dundee Michigan and the rest furnished sand from Yuma, MI to the Ford Engine Casting Plants in Lima and Cleveland, Ohio.

The Detroit and Toledo Shoreline cars were also in sand service to the same locations from their sand pit in Rockland, MI.

The Wabash served a sand pit in Wolcottville, IN and shipped the sand to various concrete plants in Northwestern, Ohio as their sand was approved by ODOT for use in concrete on Highway Projects.

The NKP serviced the Diamond Shamrock plant and send Soda Ash and other Soda products all over the country using the smaller cars and as car size increased they substituted the newer cars as Soda Ash was a lighter product.

Rick Jesionowski


Mark Drake <markstation01@...>
 

Let me clarify my question, I need dimensional data decal sheets circa 1955 for the PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers......
 
Mark L. Drake
eBay ID member1108


arved_grass
 

My first stop for back issues is Railpub.com. After that, eBay. :(
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Arved Grass
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Thu, 8/28/14, Mark Drake markstation01@yahoo.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [STMFC] Need PS-2 data
To: "STMFC@yahoogroups.com" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 28, 2014, 5:06 AM


Let me clarify I need
decals to do the cars, also how can I get the back issues of
the articles mentioned?
 Mark L. Drake
eBay ID member1108









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