UP Freight Car Red


Armand Premo
 

Arved,Ask Mike Brock. Armand Premo

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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 4:29 PM
Subject: [STMFC] UP Freight Car Red

 

Sorry if this has been asked in the past, but it's an old issue that's been bothering me. Star Brands paint lists their STR-30 paint as S.P./U.P. freight car red. I've never considered the U.P. and S.P. colors the same:

UP 126281:

http://lariverrailroads.com/freight_car/up126281.jpg

SP 210931:
http://lariverrailroads.com/freight_car/sp210931.jpg

Assuming I'm right (boy, is that a big assumption!), what's the scoop? Is there a better match for UP freight car red in the Star Brand/Tru-Color paint lineup?

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


arved_grass
 

Sorry if this has been asked in the past, but it's an old issue that's been bothering me. Star Brands paint lists their STR-30 paint as S.P./U.P. freight car red. I've never considered the U.P. and S.P. colors the same:

UP 126281:

http://lariverrailroads.com/freight_car/up126281.jpg

SP 210931:
http://lariverrailroads.com/freight_car/sp210931.jpg

Assuming I'm right (boy, is that a big assumption!), what's the scoop? Is there a better match for UP freight car red in the Star Brand/Tru-Color paint lineup?

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@... or Arved@...
Fleming Island, Florida


Tony Thompson
 

Arved Grass wrote:

 

Sorry if this has been asked in the past, but it's an old issue that's been bothering me. Star Brands paint lists their STR-30 paint as S.P./U.P. freight car red. I've never considered the U.P. and S.P. colors the same . . .


     Depends on era, Arved. They were certainly the same in the Harriman era, and appear to have remained the same through the 1930s, until UP adopted a much redder, even orange-tinged, color. After that, no, they were certainly not the same. 
      As a passing comment, I can tell you from personal examination of SP color drift panels, that the "mineral" color did not change significantly from 1920 to 1960, and even the 1994 panel I have is only very slightly different. Some have claimed that after World War II, SP went to a richer, deeper color, but the drift panels I have seen do not bear that out.

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