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John C. La Rue, Jr. <MOFWCABOOSE@...>

#130831

Whoever would have thought that Kodak would abandon the technology that made it great in favor of something called "digital" ?

Ilford is still committed to the silver halide technology and I use them exclusively, and so do other photo dealers. If Ilford gives up there will always be Chinese-made paper, though how good their product is, remains to be seen.

John C. La Rue, Jr.

Bonita Springs, FL

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-----Original Message-----
From: riverman_vt@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 11:17 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Bobs photos

Hello Doug and all,

I believe you are correct about Bob Lilljestrand's business (Bob's Photos) in all but one respect.

Bob used to do quite a bit of his own printing but if I am not mistaken he has not done ANY printing

since taking a header on an ice patch at the Springfield show several years ago. This left him with

an inability to tolerate the fumes from photographic processing chemicals which left him having to

use the services of others for all printing. As I have found myself of late it is also becoming more and

more difficult to purchase decent black & white photographic printing paper and chemicals. Once

they have been found the price is often prohibitive as well. Whatever happened to American

opportunity and competition? It is even effecting the STMFC hobby field.

Cordially, Don Valentine

arved_grass

#130839

Please don't forget the Germans. Adox has taken over much of the Agfa line of B&W films and papers. Well, maybe "much" is a bit of a reach, but it's better than nothing. I always preferred Ilford and Agfa papers over Kodak's B&W paper offerings, but I always ended up preferring Kodak films for some reason.

I see nothing wrong with scanning negatives, working on them on a "digital darkroom," and then having them printed "chemically" (as opposed to "giclee" - the artsy-fartsy term for inkjet). The Fuji Frontier printers at Walmart, Costco, and elsewhere scan negatives, then print and develop using conventional photographic paper and chemicals. It's always a hassle to get a true, untoned B&W print on color paper, but it IS possible. For the purist, Ilford Lab Direct offers traditional silver gelatin prints from digital files:

http://www.ilfordlab-us.com/

Arved Grass
Arved_Grass@yahoo.com or Arved@I-Do-Photography.com
Fleming Island, Florida

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On Tue, 1/13/15, 'John C. La Rue, Jr.' MOFWCABOOSE@AOL.COM [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [STMFC] Photo technology
 To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 11:33 PM

 Whoever would have thought that Kodak would
 abandon the technology that made it great in favor of
 something called "digital" ?

 Ilford is still committed to the silver halide
 technology and I use them exclusively, and so do other photo
 dealers. If Ilford gives up there will always be
 Chinese-made paper, though how good their product is,
 remains to be seen.

 John C. La Rue, Jr.

 Bonita Springs, FL

 -----Original Message-----

 From: riverman_vt@yahoo.com [STMFC]
 <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>

 To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>

 Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 11:17 pm

 Subject: RE: [STMFC] Bobs photos

 Hello Doug and all,

     I believe you are correct about Bob
 Lilljestrand's business (Bob's Photos) in all but
 one respect. 

 Bob used to do quite a bit of his own printing but if I
 am not mistaken he has not done ANY printing 

 since taking a
 header on an ice patch at the Springfield show several years
 ago. This left him with

 an inability to
 tolerate the fumes from photographic processing chemicals
 which left him having to

 use the services
 of others for all
 printing. As I have found myself of late it is also becoming
 more and

 more difficult to
 purchase decent black & white photographic printing
 paper and chemicals. Once 

 they have been found the price is often
 prohibitive as well. Whatever happened to
 American 

 opportunity and
 competition? It is even effecting the STMFC hobby
 field.

 Cordially, Don
 Valentine

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Andy Harman

#130879

At 11:33 PM 1/13/2015 -0500, you wrote:

Ilford is still committed to the silver halide technology and I use them exclusively, and so do other photo dealers. If Ilford gives up there will always be Chinese-made paper, though how good their product is, remains to be seen.Nice to know Ilford is still around.  Can you still get Dektol?  Or Kodafix?

I have a couple bottles of Rodinal - which was my preferred developer for Kodak TMX film, which was my preferred film for daylight B&W photography.  I wonder if it's still good?  Ultra concentrated.  Not sure if it's still available or not.

Andy